Dizzy Order of MWC wanted to do the rap duel on the street.
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During the May 3 “Hip-Hop vs. Punk” event at Tower Bar, there was no evidence of aggressive behavior as the punk bands (the Lumps, the Mice) battled hip-hop crews (First Power Crew, BDP and T) inside the Normal Heights bar. Outside was a different story.

Dizzy Order (Eric Woodard) is a veteran hip-hop artist who started organizing shows in the late ’90s at the now-closed Loft downtown, “and at cafés that don’t exist anymore.... I was the first one to do shows at the Yard three years ago.” The Yard is the name of a backyard venue at a home on 17th Street near downtown, where backyard hip-hop shows are thrown regularly.

Along with his longtime MC partner Rokon (Max Stone), Dizzy has revived a loose-knit crew of conscious rappers called MWC, who address topics such as Monsanto seeds and the Boston Marathon bombing.

Dizzy says there was tension brewing between MWC, a multi-ethnic crew, and a white rap group called First Power Crew. He says the tension was not race-based. It was over a beef with First Power MC Stunt Double Bob.

Stunt Double Bob wanted to take the rap battle onstage.

“Bob was getting personally aggressive to me at the Yard. So I made a rap: ‘What kind of name is Stunt Double Bob/ Sounds like a name in gay porn.’ We made that song and put it on the internet. He said on Facebook, ‘You guys are nobody. Why don’t you come to my show May 3 and we’ll battle it out onstage.’”

When they showed up, Dizzy says there were only five MWCs, and “they had, like, 50 people.”

Rokon says MWC only wanted to duel First Power guys on the street. “We wanted to settle things intellectually, using our rhymes to fight each other instead of our fists. But I got the impression they were afraid to battle us.”

The battling, says Rokon, became physical.

“The second we get there, this Bob character, who is six-feet-one and has orange hair and a beard, goes up to my wife who is video taping and says, ‘I heard of you, fuck you,’ and pushes the camera in her face. I felt like a witch doctor who was getting burned at the stake by 50 people who didn’t know what they were doing. It was like they were trying emulate the movie Warriors.”

Rokon admitted he knocked a cell phone/camera out of Bob’s hands because of what he earlier did to his wife, but that there was no damage to the phone.

“As we were leaving,” Rokon says, “Bob rushes the car, grabs the camera off her neck, takes the memory card out, and he slams it against my vehicle.”

The promoter of the event, Hugh Knight (DJ Unite), and a supporter of the First Power guys, says it was actually the MWC’s who “bum-rushed” the event. “They wanted to do an Eight Mile event outside, which wasn’t cool. They came to our show and were disrespectful. We would have let them onstage.”

Rokon says the video would prove that the First Power Crew were the ones who were out of hand.

Knight admits that First Power did get ahold of the memory card from the camera and destroyed it. “I didn’t want anyone to get their hands on it. It could have been disrespectful.”

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Ceecee May 22, 2013 @ 10:39 a.m.

Mr Leighton, sorry to tell ya, but you got suckered into a faulty story. White rap group? Thats just the beginning. Fact check my friend...it may help. Good Day!

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Dizzyorder May 22, 2013 @ 6:28 p.m.

Cecee yo were not there if you did not see me

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Ceecee May 22, 2013 @ 7:12 p.m.

Dizzy, what are you talking about? Did I say that? Do yourself a favor and re -read what I wrote. While you're at it....re-read what you've written....you make no sense. Spellcheck.

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DJ_Unite May 22, 2013 @ 10:46 a.m.

For the record:

"Hugh Knight (DJ Unite), and a supporter of the First Power guys" -I've been a member of First Power Crew since 1995

"a white rap group called First Power Crew" -First Power is not an all white crew. In fact our top MC, ZeoHDeeH, is black.

"‘You guys are nobody. Why don’t you come to my show May 3 and we’ll battle it out onstage.’” -When Stuntdouble invited these guys to battle, they dissed Tower Bar and everyone that performs there. They refused the invitation, then showed up unannounced, without Dizzy.

“We wanted to settle things intellectually, using our rhymes to fight each other instead of our fists. But I got the impression they were afraid to battle us.” -Although Rokon claims that Stuntdouble was afraid to battle, I bore witness to him battling 3 people from MWC at once, by himself, on "the street", that evening.

-The author of this article never contacted Stuntdouble regarding this issue.

Mr. Leighton, the next time I want to whine about taking a loss, I'll cook up a juicy story for you so the rest of the city can see how badly I'm taking it.

Unite- First Power Crew- Peng One Forever

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airbearinSD May 23, 2013 @ 2:34 p.m.

thank you for clearing this up because, you sir, are speaking the truth. the whole race card in this is ridiculous to be even brought up, aren't we past that now a days? this is a seriously biased article and is absolutely disgusting. Ask real cats in the SD hip hop scene about Max Stone and how he represents himself. this article is garbage.

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Ken Leighton May 22, 2013 @ 1:06 p.m.

The white rap group was a quote. Sorry if it was incorrect.

The rest of the story still stands. Dizzy and Rokon say they did not diss The Tower bar since they never went in. They say beef was with Stuntdouble Bob. The fact is, the video camera was destroyed, and DJ Unite had possession of the memory card, admitted it, and in fact sent out still images from that recording. The memory card was destroyed and not returned. Is any of this not correct?

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Ken Leighton May 22, 2013 @ 3:35 p.m.

As Dizzy says, the truth about the whole night was on the video card. He says if you had not destroyed it, the night's events would be there for everyone to see.

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sdstitchgiver May 22, 2013 @ 5:01 p.m.

My goodness, Ken, it looks like you may have actually gotten one fact correct. But that's about all. The memory card was, in fact, destroyed and not returned. As far as what was in the video, Dizzy wouldn't know because he wasn't there that night. I'm not even going to go into how wrong your story is. You, I, The First Power Crew and MWC know that the story you wrote isn't a true reflection of what went down that night. MWC is hurt because they got burned at their own game. And you, my dear, look like a chump writing articles that are not factually supported.

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Dizzyorder May 22, 2013 @ 6:30 p.m.

I was there Pulled Bob Off Rokan after He Got rushed

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Ken Leighton May 22, 2013 @ 5:34 p.m.

Dear Mr. stitchgiver. Dizzy says he was there. Dizzy and Rokon say everything was documented and their point is proved in the video. And you admit having it and then destroying it.....hmmmmmmm. Dizzy says he is going to respond on this blog later tonight, that he was but that he got there late. Rokon said that DJ Unite in fact contacted him, imploring him to not talk to the media about this event. I wonder why he would do that? I wonder why you would destroy the video? Unless of course, maybe that what MWC is saying is true. I suggest that MWC and First Power actually do get together for an official verbal battle at a venue. Tape it so everyone can see it on You Tube. We'll see if MWC is as good as they say they are and if stuntdouble bob is as verbally feeble as MWC says he is. How about it? It would clear the air.

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Ken Leighton May 22, 2013 @ 5:36 p.m.

Dear Mr. stitchgiver. Dizzy says he was there. Dizzy and Rokon say everything was documented and their point is proved in the video. And you admit having it and then destroying it.....hmmmmmmm. Dizzy says he is going to respond on this blog later tonight, that he was there but that he got there late. Rokon said that DJ Unite in fact contacted him, imploring him to not talk to the media about this event. I wonder why he would do that? I wonder why you would destroy the video? Unless of course, maybe that what MWC is saying is true. I suggest that MWC and First Power actually do get together for an official verbal battle at a venue. Tape it so everyone can see it on You Tube. We'll see if MWC is as good as they say they are and if stuntdouble bob is as verbally feeble as MWC says he is. How about it? It would clear the air.

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Dizzyorder May 22, 2013 @ 5:53 p.m.

1st all I was there showed up late but was right there for one of the so called battles . Was right there when Bob slapped camera out Silla's hand. If they had not destroyed the camera You would see that. If they had giben the memeorey card like they promised when they called me the next day Bob would have been just an idiot on the internet . Om the one who pulled bob of Rokan after the scuffle happen . I remember telling bob your beef is with me and right now i got you so give up lets go home . And home we went . Bob was right in front of my car when he slapped the camera. Bob half as battled all of mcw by stand in there face aggressively. If you put out the footage you would see that. Ken storey is about as on point from someone who stuck to facts.

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sdstitchgiver May 22, 2013 @ 6:30 p.m.

First off, Dizzy, if anyone is looking like an idiot on the Internet, it's you. Second, you were not there for the first "battle" nor were you there for the commencement of "Operation Bum Rush" as your crew called it. I was there. I witnessed all of it. I also watched the video when Rokan and Silla try to make nice with Unite which includes Stuntdouble burning MWC. The only sense I can make of your wild recollection of the night is that you all are smoking DMT. Ken, your assumptions are all wrong. You know what they say when you assume, right? Well, in this case you're only making an ass of yourself. Especially when your assumptions are based on hearsay. I could tell you I'm a millionaire rocket scientist, does that make it true? Not hardly, but clearly you believe everything you're told. I assume this is an antagonistic ploy to get someone to produce the video. If that were to happen, it would be all bad news for your friends, the MWC. The video will show Silla approaching Stuntdouble, and shoving the camera in his face. It will also show Rokan accosting Stuntdouble and it will also show that they came to the show with the intent to catch FP off guard. As far as getting FP and MWC together to battle - that was attempted, but MWC declined the invitation. I wonder why hmmmmm...

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Department5 May 22, 2013 @ 7:38 p.m.

StitchGiver instead of SpitSicker? You don't speak for MWC sparrow! MWC would never assault a woman take her camera and smash it at the ground and steal her property to play a cat and mouse game, and then use personal family photos found on the disk as leverage to not talk about it. You think thats a victory that is what the clinic refer to as "cowardly lion" syndrome. If you actually believe that Dizzy wasn't there then you get the "Dumbest Marx" award. You are a chump trying to spin reality in defense of a coward that assaults woman to protect his image,damages their property and destroys and/or steals/obstructs evidence, violates intellectual property rights of MWC by unauthorized private broadcasting of MWC Property. Some of this is very similar to what a crooked cop would do when you film the truth. The only one who came out of that situation with visible bruises was Silla Tru. Bruises on her arm, neck (the camera landyard was around her neck she was in the passengers seat, it was yanked from the vehicle off her neck). Department 9 all day everyday what else do you expect. You can find several videos on YouTube of police officers breaking cameras. Theres not a single time they did it to win a game. They did it because they were scared of their own stupidity. The only thing that isn't a true reflection, for the record, is you spinning.

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suzledeboer May 22, 2013 @ 8:45 p.m.

What were you drinking or thinking, Ken? The Tower Bar on University Avenue is not in Normal Heights. You got your Heights mixed up; it's in City Heights.

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scoops May 23, 2013 @ 12:09 p.m.

Have a few questions for ken. Alls I'm seeing is dizzy said , dizzy said, dizzy said. Did you bother contacting the bar? Security? Other members of first power? You wrote an extremely biased article based off the two guys who from what I hear got punked. Now they say a memory card that they think is destroyed will clear them. Very convienent. Fact is myself and several other people saw the thread where bob challenged him on facebook and dizzy declined. Try doing a little investigating before you print things about guys hitting girls and bum rushing people. Maybe investigate some more instead of printing this. Btw this beef was pretty small and could've been handled with out press interference, it's really ridiculously biased and not the story I was told by several people not affiliated with either crew

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Ken Leighton May 23, 2013 @ 1:02 p.m.

The bar had nothing to do with it. Dizzy declined to battle Bob inside Tower but wanted to do it outside. Right or wrong, that's what they were there to do. The article also quoted Rokon and DJ Unite who admitted he had possession of the card and who admitted he destroyed it. Did you miss that? Here's what we know for sure: The First Power people say that Dizzy was not even there. Wrong. Rokon's wife was taping the whole scene, the camera was taken from her and broken. The First Power people got possession of the recording card. The FP people viewed the card (which incidentally also had footage of Rokon's children) and then admittedly destroyed it. Here's the big question Scoops: Why would FP destroy the memory card unless it supported MWC's claims? Smells a little fishy don't ya think? You say there is "press interference." Just who is interfering with whom? I think breaking someone's camera and stealing someone's memory card is pretty "interfering." Both Unite and now you Scoops would much rather this article never happen in the first place. Wonder why. The article also included the fact that Rokon admitted slapping Bob's phone out of his hand. As I said before, why not pick a venue somewhere in your area (The Yard or The Tower on a night they don't have anything else booked) and instead of doing a guerilla battle which MWC tried to stage, make it official and peaceful, and video it so we can all see if MWC is as good as they claim and if stuntdouble Bob is as lame with a mic as Dizzy claims. Dizzy's opinion may be wrong. But I say he has a right to prove it. I'd been some TV news crew would show up.

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scoops May 23, 2013 @ 1:27 p.m.

This is to stupid for words. Believe what you want ken . I'm out

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Ken Leighton May 23, 2013 @ 2:53 p.m.

As you wish. You said you had a few questions for Ken. I think I answered them.

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scoops May 23, 2013 @ 3:03 p.m.

You really didn't. It's a hack piece that is almost as low as tmz. But this is not worth my time. Good luck, hope your next story is better. Once again I'm out

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