On May 24, a pitbull attacked a six-month-old puppy at the off-leash dog area at Wells Park. The puppy was badly injured; however, the owner of the pitbull refused to exchange information and declined to take responsibility for his dog’s actions. The pitbull’s owner picked up his dog and left the park in his vehicle; a partial plate was taken from what was described as a white truck.

According to people who frequent the park, this was not the first time that the same pitbull has shown signs of aggression. They recalled earlier encounters and described the dog’s owner as very defensive and protective of his pet.

The City of El Cajon Recreation Department advises that Animal Control be notified in the event of an injury or biting incident.

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jenjen May 29, 2010 @ 1:36 p.m.

Someday this dog will bite a person and have to be put down. I'm sad already.

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CuddleFish May 29, 2010 @ 3:06 p.m.

Just terrible. Wish those dogs did not exist.

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SurfPuppy619 May 29, 2010 @ 4:20 p.m.

Not the dogs, but the owners. I would have dialed 911 and pressed charges.

We also need the right to carry-so if this type of incident did happen you could blast the offending dog-like an Orange County mother did last week;

Published: May 20, 2010 Updated: May 24, 2010 11:26 a.m.

'I aimed at the dog's chest and shot him'

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/dog-249757-anna-cooper.html

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antigeekess May 29, 2010 @ 8:47 p.m.

SSDD, folks. Little dogs aren't safe at offleash dog parks now, due specifically to this breed of dog running around and the chronically irresponsible owners that usually have them.


April 24th, Grape St. Dog Park: Papi's Pug Friend, Vico Killed at Grape St. Park

Yes, this just made my Papi and Coco very upset. So on behalf of the owner, Jennifer, we are reporting what happened for them: The adorable pug Vico was killed at the park on sat. He the one that loves to chase his little ball and gave high fives with his smushy face. He was first attacked by a Pitbull that locked on to him and then a couple of labs jumped in to finish the job. One of the labs was big and black and someone had stated the he has been aggressive before with many other dogs. Anyway I am just devastated and Jennifer, Vicos mama, is so very upset. I know you have a lot of contacts at the park and Jennifer is looking for the dogs that killed Vico so she can try to hopefully prevent it from happening again. I promised her I would check to see if anyone knew anything. Vico Rest in Peace.

Here is the Craigs List Notice: Sat 24th Dog Attack - Help Date: 2010-04-26, 2:29PM My sister's pug was attacked and killed by a small (possibly young) gray pit bull this last saturday April 24th at the Grape Street Dog Park in the early afternoon. After the pit attacked, two other dogs (possibly Labs) jumped into the attack also causing serious injuries. After the dogs were seperated and wihile my sister was attending to her dog, everyone fled with their dogs. She is now left with a huge vet bill and a has lost her dog. We believe the pit bull may have been female and that the male owner of the dog may have just got it a few weeks ago from a shelter and has frequented the park over the last couple weeks. Please email if you have any ideas or information on tracking down this irresponsible pet owner. Thanks.


The above was posted by Jennifer's brother Matt, who a few days ago informed me that he was able to track down the owner of the pit bull, who coughed up the money for Vico's vet bills. -- AG

There was another attack by a WHITE pit bull on a little dog in a Shelter Island dog park (not sure where this is -- perhaps associated with a hotel?) in the last couple weeks as well. I communicated with that owner via email but am not able to fish it out at this moment. That dog did survive, but the vet bills were huge. The attacking dog is described as a white pit bull that "looked like a pig." The pit bull owner's response was that it was the woman's fault for bringing her small dog to an offleash dog park. He is described as Hispanic.

I'll say it again: Small dogs are not safe at offleash dog parks. If you take your small dog to one, you need to collect it and leave as soon as the pit bulls show up. It only takes a moment for your precious little guy to lose his life.

:(

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CuddleFish May 29, 2010 @ 10:01 p.m.

I repeat, I wish those dogs did not exist. As long as they exist, other dogs, people, small children, live in fear of their lives. I have seen pit bulls wandering the streets unleashed, I have seen them leashed and straining along with owners who are clearly enjoying intimidating everyone as they parade the animal down the streets. I pray there are no cats loose, no babies in strollers coming around the corner, no mother with two or three little ones walking to the market or the bakery. There is no reason why all of us should be living in fear.

There is nothing we can do about morons. There is something we can do about a breed of dog that is known for killing. Get rid of these dogs.

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Duhbya May 30, 2010 @ 5:52 a.m.

Re #8 - The story read: 1:12 PM PDT, May 28, 2010 "MURRIETA, Calif. -- Authorities say a mother who already lost custody of two children in 2008 will lose custody of her 6-month-old boy whose testicles were chewed off by two large dogs in Riverside County.

Murrieta police say the 22-year-old mother Carrie McKinney had left the baby in a carrier on the floor in her friend's apartment last Saturday.

Sgt. Bob Landwehr says the woman left the room and soon after, a pit bull and pit bull mix attacked the baby, tearing off the infant's diaper and biting his scrotum.

The mother and friend, Doug Ritchey, heard screaming and rescued the baby, who is hospitalized in unknown condition, police said.

Child Protective Services workers took the baby from the mother, Murrieta police Sgt. James Ganley said.

San Diego County child protective services has obtained a court order to take the infant away from McKinney, of Point Loma, Ganley said.

MCKinney had lost custody of two other children in 2008, the Press-Enterprise is reporting.

It was not immediately clear why she lost custody of her other children.

Riverside County CPS will conduct an investigation, Ganley said.

No arrests have been made in the case.

The dogs are being euthanized."

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antigeekess May 30, 2010 @ 12:29 p.m.

FYI Duhbya, the above story was previously covered by Mindy and commented on here: http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs...

Here's a petition regarding dog fighting, if anyone would care to sign: http://www.thehungersite.com/clickToGive/campaign.faces?siteId=3&campaign=DogFighting

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Duhbya May 31, 2010 @ 5:16 a.m.

Thank you, antigeekess. I missed that, obviously. I have signed and confirmed the petition.

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thestoryteller May 31, 2010 @ 11:52 p.m.

My Cairn Terrier was killed by a Weimaraner. Any breed that's been used for hunting will prey on small dogs, because they don't recognize them as dogs, or maybe they just think they are annoying.

I was pet sitting and I saw the pack of large dogs surround my Lab and back her up against the garage door. They took turns jumping in and beating her up. I ran outside yelling and the little dog rushed out when I opened the screen door. The little dog (her name was Maddy), started barking at the big dog and he just reached down and picked her up and ran off with her.

She was moaning and squealing. I got the pooper scooper and chased him with it and when I'd get close to him, he just move away. When she was dead, he left her body in the driveway.

His owbner said he was her "wussiest" dog and wouldn't do that. She didn't even offer to pay the $15 fee I had to pay the humane society to dispose of her. Pitbull owners aren't the only a$$holes around, there are just more of them because pitbulls are a popular breed.

I've seen many small dogs frightened by big dogs at the dog park, and the owners just stand there like idiots. Small dogs don't belong with big dogs.

Has anyone taken a look at the picture of the pit that Michael Vick used for fighting? He is a lot more vicious than any pit bull. Few people say anything about his running around loose.

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SurfPuppy619 June 1, 2010 @ 7 a.m.

I feel so sorry for your carrin terrier.

I agree with you 100% about hunting dogs viewing smaller dogs/animals as prey. The shelters always test out dogs that are being adopted by owners with smaller anilmals and especially cats-if dog attacks a shelter test animal as a prey they will not allow the adopting.

I am taking care of a carrin terrior right now- dog ditting her- and the very first day this little 15# terrier attacked another dog I was dog sitting for, a toy poddle that weighed less than 5#'s. So all dogs can get into fights. The terrior's name is Tara-and after the fight-where she very surprisingly made the most vicious growls and barks you could imagine- I started calling her Terror. No mroe problems though.

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Jadester June 1, 2010 @ 12:23 p.m.

MMMMMM let me see I was wondering what the owner was doing ..at the time of the attacking ? I as an owner would not be standing around to let my little dog get eatten by nothing !! I would do some ass kicking my self (hello) life is short Kick some as to save your little helpless pup ....I don't feel sorry for the owner ...I'd be yelling at you to help your doggie ...and if it was my dog it would never had happend ....dorks !!

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brookey67 June 1, 2010 @ 4:03 p.m.

this just really pisses me off. i have a pitbull who is a complete angel, he's 90lbs and is an amazing dog, its things like this that give the entire breed a bad rep. which in result is making it almost impossible for us to find a home in california because they're aren't a pitbull friendly state. my dog is nothing but love and plays hard but is nothing close to agressive and its unfortunate that these things are happening-at the same time, dalmations have had more reported attacks then pitbulls and rotts put together but you don't see anyone searching for issue to point the finger there do you? nope, everyone just wants to keep up the media of pitbulls being bad...they're some of the most loyal dogs out there, and its not even about being trained right, just not being abused and they're great dogs, my dog is around kids all the time now since they live next door and he instantly will stop jumping and let them pet him, its like he knows and means no harm obviously.

just because this pitbull hasen't been getting along with other dogs in the park doesn't mean he'll snap on a human (hopefully not cus thats so sad we all know what will happen), some dogs just dont like other dogs, especially males who aren't fixed...be safe with your pitbulls and stop giving them a bad name!! at the same time people---stop searching for the bad story.

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SurfPuppy619 June 1, 2010 @ 4:44 p.m.

this just really pisses me off. i have a pitbull who is a complete angel, he's 90lbs and is an amazing dog, its things like this that give the entire breed a bad rep.

Very true-it is not the breed.

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thestoryteller June 1, 2010 @ 8:37 p.m.

SurfPuppy619: Mine are angels too. The problem is not all of them are, and the ones that aren't are give all of them a bad name.

This attack may have been avoided if the owner had gotten the dog's history at the shelter. If it's a stray and nothing is known, assume the dog is hinky around children and small animals and don't put them at risk.

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qpodad June 3, 2010 @ 11:58 a.m.

If you own a large dog, with or without aggressive tendencies, you must be more cautious about how you handle them. My kids were walking to the car with my wife this Monday morning when a Neopolitan Mastiff, who had escaped its yard, charged full speed at them, barking maniacally, from three houses down. Thankfully, it took a few seconds for the dog to cover the distance, according to my wife, who screamed at the kids to get in the car.

The kids and she made it to the car, and closed the doors; the dog continued growling and barking at them, circling the car. I had my son's baseball bat on the porch, and picked it up because the dog turned towards me when it saw me on the porch, as I was the last one to come out of my house. The dog had its ears back, teeth bared, and hair standing up on its neck. I loudly commanded "down", "sit", "stay"; no response. I am about two seconds from swinging that bat as hard as I can at the dogs skull because it was still walking straight at me snarling (this dog is about 3 feet tall, and weighed at least 150 lbs, the jaws looked massively muscled).

I am glad I did not have to, because the owner finally heard the yelling, came out, and called his dog back, who stood down when he heard his owner. Another neighbor who saw this harassed the owner for allowing the dog to get out. Owner says "but he is nice" and acted as if it did not happen the way it was described to him. I wanted to hit him with bat, too. Then I realized, maybe the dog had never done this, and the owner really was surprised top hear of this. My family and/or the dog could have been hurt (or worse) due to negligence of this owner. His dog was so big, he has to more extremely careful even if he thinks "my dog would not do that". I am a dog lover, dog owner, and not generally scared of dogs. However, I was scared of his dog because his mastiff was so big and muscular, I was not sure I could have even stopped (or even slowed) it with the bat if it had come any closer to me (it was within about 6 feet of me on my porch, and I had no where to go, as I wasn't about to lower the bat and turn around to open the doors)

Check your yard! Check it three times if your dog can maim with one bite!

I am on the fence about reporting this guy, because I am not sure there is anything to report without a bite? Thoughts?

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Grasca June 3, 2010 @ 1:54 p.m.

The City of San Diego is currently seeking to change the municipal code as it relates to sites like Grape Street off leash area because of problems with irresponsible owners. In my opinion if your dog has attacked another dog or person as it happened at Grape Street, you have a moral and legal obligation to share your information just as you would for a traffic accident. I would immediately report the mastiff as it is dangerous and if you do not, the next person may not be as lucky as your family was. I would lay odds that this is not the first time that the dog has escaped or threatened someone.

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qpodad June 3, 2010 @ 3:23 p.m.

Thanks for your response Grasca, I am going to talk to the owner about his dogs past history. I don't want to see the wrong thing happen (i.e., his dog is put down) if it not a truly aggressive dog, as I have know many dogs that are "all bark and no bite", plus, if it was going to bite me, it seems like it would have, because the situation took about 30 seconds to unfold before the dog returned to the owner's command.

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Grasca June 3, 2010 @ 4:01 p.m.

The Animal Control Department maintains a list of dangerous dogs. If a dog is found to be dangerous, certain restrictions are placed on the dog and its owner which protect others. Without a report to Animal Control the mastiff may not be controlled in such a way that people are safe. It has been my experience that most dog owners with "questionable" dogs are in denial. Boys under the age of ten are the one most likely to be hurt for some reason by dogs. I hope that your neighbor is responsive and takes the proper measures to control his animal.

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CuddleFish June 3, 2010 @ 5:52 p.m.

I would definitely report it. Don't try to decide on your own whether the dog is dangerous. Let the proper authorities make the call as to what to do.

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SurfPuppy619 June 3, 2010 @ 5:52 p.m.

Oh, and this pit bull "Ginger", she has no business being allowed out in public, a killer;

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Grasca June 3, 2010 @ 7:12 p.m.

Thanks for the videos. I would like to see one of the mastiff that cornered the mother and children in their car. Oh - those will not be posted. Right. I completely understand.

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CuddleFish June 3, 2010 @ 7:41 p.m.

That pitbull didn't lick that puppy to death.

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Robert Johnston June 4, 2010 @ 9:49 p.m.

I have had my run-ins with "bad-doggies" and their even worse owners.

Reccomended counters:

1) Pepper Spray--I carry a cannister with me at all times, and know how to employ it. One burst in the mush usually drives them off. Equally useful for giving an agressive owner a high-Scoville Unit "attitude adjustment" if they come after you with mayhem on their minds.

Oh, BTW--under a law signed by Pete Wilson when he ran the state, pepper spray does not require a license to buy-and-use, but you can only use it in self-defense (or in the defense of another, including your pet). Scoville-Levels measure the "heat strength" of the spray used. The higher the Scoville Level, the hotter the spray!

2)Cellphone--call 911 when it's safe, and report the situation. If you are bit, you will need to be seen-and-treated by medical personnel, preferably in the local hospital's Emergency Department. Also, give the responding officer all the information you can about the offending pooch-and-owner, such as physical descriptions, any vehicles used, and so forth. If bozo does get picked up, and it goes to court--testify and have done with it! Perhaps the sight of time in the county hoosegow might elevate his thinking about his actions.

3) Weapon Of Last Resort--Face it, folks...if your dog is being killed by somebody's "pooch-from-purgatory," it's like a family member being attacked by that very same beast.

Now is not the time to flee (not smart, anyway--that pooch will then go after you...hunting instinct, you know). Nope, it's time to draw the steel and go for broke! That beast is killing the very friend that relies on you for it food, shelter, and protection.

The very least you can do is fight back...and fight to kill! Now, this does sound extreme, I understand. But if it has to be, then sending the offending pooch to Doggie Heaven (be it by gunfire, blade, baseball bat, or bare hands) might save the life of another potential four-legged victim (or two-legged, in the case of a kid or infant)in the long run.

If the owner pitches a beef about what happened? Quietly remind said owner that if he had kept his eyes on his pooch before anything could start, then the incident-in-question would never have taken place to begin with!

Mind you, #3 is only for "when all else fails." However, it should be part of your "threat responses" when dealing with a bad doggie and a worse owner. !

Granted, there are plenty of "angels" of every breed out there, ones who would rather lick you silly than bite you dead! I have found that if a large dog has a name of "Baby" or "Lovie," there is a good reason for it. --LPR

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thestoryteller June 5, 2010 @ 7:25 p.m.

Not all pit bulls are angels--the denial on thepart of owners is part of the problem. Some are good, some are not. If anyone thinks they can do no wrong, go down to the county shelter and ask someone who works there. They have plenty of problems with dog aggression. I've often said if they don't come in dog aggressive, they will be when they come out, because sometimes pit bulls will start to growl at other dogs after they've been in the shelter environment awhile.

People with questionable dogs often ARE questionable owners. Dogs tend to develop the personalities of their owners.

I am in favor of a volunteer team of people to serve in the capacity of lifeguards at dog parks. They should be equipped with video cameras and equipment and training to break up fights and attacks. They should also have the power to arrest if an owner should get out of line. This would end dog park problems.

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Grasca June 6, 2010 @ 2:46 p.m.

The problem with dog park guards would be the insurance and liability issues which I think might be raised by any city government. If owners of questionable dogs were not in denial about their dogs' behaviors, then the dog park problems would end. A current problem is the use of dog parks by dog walkers/sitters who bring far too many animals into the off leash areas and cannot control them. There is really no city staff to enforce the laws or keep order. These parks are like the Wild Wild West. Any responsible dog owner takes a chance to use one for himself or his dog. Also, the areas are not clean. I have used Fiesta Island dog area. It stinks to high heaven despite the fact there are FREE mutt mitts and plenty of trash cans.

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thestoryteller June 7, 2010 @ 3:59 p.m.

Grasca: Government doesn't have insurance issues because it doesn't carry insurance. If they lose a lawsuit, they just pay it out of the revenue.

It wouldn't present anymore of a liability than the senior patrol, if they just had an overseer to witness and get license plate numbers, that would be enough. For one thing, a person in uniform would cause some of these irresponsible dog owners to think twice before bringing an "iffy" dog into the park.

I think Cricket's Corner at RCHS has watch-out. I think it's a good idea to have security in all dog parks.

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Grasca June 7, 2010 @ 5:16 p.m.

Any city would not allow volunteers to work at a dog park and issue tickets. There are liability issues.

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