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Cupertino-based Apple Computer announced today (Oct. 5) that Steve Jobs, the innovator behind the iPhone, iPod, iPad, IMac and iTunes, has died after an extended illness.

Jobs may go down in history with the likes of Thomas Edison. In fact, he may go down not only as a creative genius, but as a managerial genius. Jobs and Steve Wozniak in 1976 marketed what was considered the first personal computer. He was a multimillionaire at age 25 but was ousted from Apple at age 30.

He then founded NeXT computers, and bought the company which became Pixar Animation Studios. Apple stumbled aimlessly without Jobs. He returned in 1996 when Apple bought NeXT. Then came the string of innovations that propelled the company and its stock upward. In 2004 he fought pancreatic cancer. In August of this year, he resigned as chief executive, saying he could no longer meet his duties.

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Psycholizard Oct. 5, 2011 @ 6:55 p.m.

So energetic, so enthusiastic, so charismatic, so American.


Don Bauder Oct. 5, 2011 @ 8:53 p.m.

He mastered the technology and also he had a great feel for the market. Apple wasn't known for doing polls of possible public acceptance of a product. Under Jobs, Apple wanted to lead rather than follow public opinion. Job's product and marketing instincts were legendary. Best, Don Bauder


SurfPuppy619 Oct. 6, 2011 @ 10:31 a.m.

so charismatic,

Psycholizard really nailed it. Jobs was the ultimate leader. He SOLD his products with his enthusiasm and made you want to buy it by his charm. I woudl say his salesmanship is more important than his visionary products (or just as important).


Visduh Oct. 5, 2011 @ 7:24 p.m.

His last moves at Apple, which were brilliant, came when he was living on the proverbial borrowed time. He had pancreatic cancer and held it off for a number of years. Nobody "beats" that sort of cancer. Instead of quitting and savoring his last days, he stayed in charge and did remarkable things. That must have been his way of "savoring" his time remaining. RIP


Don Bauder Oct. 5, 2011 @ 8:50 p.m.

Yes, Jobs continued coming to work. At lunch, he could be seen waiting in line for food at the cafeteria with other employees. Best, Don Bauder


SurfPuppy619 Oct. 5, 2011 @ 8:01 p.m.

The turn around of Apple was the most amazing come-back in the history of American Business. I thought for SURE Scully was goign to BK them in 1993.

Apple was the fastest company in American history to go from start-up to Fortune 500, 3 years, then they almost went BK, then Jobs came back in 1996, then the Imac, the Ipod, the Iphone.........to the most valuable company in the Fortuen 500 (since lost to Exxon/mobil).

The BEST line I have ever heard-and I will remember this until the day I die, was when Jobs was recruiting Pepsi executive John Scully to become Apple's CEO, and Scully had cold feet, then Jobs said;

"Do you want to sell sugar water for the rest of your life or change the world?"

Jobs chnaged the world more than any other person in the last 100 years.


Don Bauder Oct. 5, 2011 @ 8:54 p.m.

I can't disagree with your laudations, SurfPup. Best, Don Bauder


tomjohnston Oct. 5, 2011 @ 9:27 p.m.

No disrespect to Mr. Edison, but I think Steve Jobs was truly in a class of his own. I agree that Jobs was a creative genius. But IMHO, what separated him from everyone else was not only that he envisioned and helped create some of these great products, but that he did it by also creating the market for them where none existed. Apple and Exxon have been going back and forth on which company has the largest market cap for the last couple of months. I think more significant is the fact that only 3 yrs ago, Apple had a market cap of about $175 billion and Exxon's was almost 3X larger. Since then, Apple's market cap has more than doubled and Exxon's has decreased by almost 30%.


SurfPuppy619 Oct. 6, 2011 @ 12:13 a.m.

I think more significant is the fact that only 3 yrs ago, Apple had a market cap of about $175 billion and Exxon's was almost 3X larger. Since then, Apple's market cap has more than doubled and Exxon's has decreased by almost 30%.

What is even MORE significant than that is the fact Apple was capped at around $5 billion in 1996 (I thought they were going to go BK when their stock was trading at $23 a share and my Mom wnated to buy tons of it-I said NO WAY they are going BK!) and they have a cap rate today of what-$350-$$400 Billion???? From $5 Billion to $400 billion is mind numbing. If we had more companies manufacturing products like Apple does America would own the world again like it did in the 50's and 60's.


Don Bauder Oct. 6, 2011 @ 7:54 a.m.

Of course, many Apple products are made in foreign countries. Best, Don Bauder


tomjohnston Oct. 6, 2011 @ 7:59 a.m.

surfpuppy619, your very astute observation is correct of course, except AAPL cap had dropped to more like $3 billion in 1996 and by the time Jobs was renamed CEO in 1997, shares had dropped to almost $10 and their cap was barely $2 billion. However, I was only comparing the 2 from the time Exxon hit it's peak of $513 billion in Q of 2007, showing the rise of one and the fall of the other. Bad call on the stock, though I have to admit that we almost sold our shares at that time. Fortunately, we were dissuaded from doing so. After Jobs, stepped down in January, again we almost sold but we didn't. Now I guess we'll wait and see what happens over the next couple of months. Shares are up a little today, so that's a good sign I think. BYW, you might want to look into where Apple products are made. Try the name Foxconn.


SurfPuppy619 Oct. 6, 2011 @ 10:29 a.m.

Apple's Cupertino campus is so big-and their plans to build a mammoth new campus led me to believe they were also manufacturing their products right here at home.

They are truly the comeback company of the century. Bar none. And it was Jobs that engineered that comeback.

BTW-Pixar has a 2 hour profile on the Biography chanel that is played fairly often, it goes into grest detail about John Lassiter who started and runs Pixar-and how Jobs bankrolled Lassiter and Pixar. If you see it in the listings I highly reccoment it.


tomjohnston Oct. 6, 2011 @ 11:17 a.m.

I think the property that the new campus is going to be built on is the old HP campus about a mile or so east of the current campus. Jobs gave a presentation on the new campus to the Cupertino city council a few months ago: http://www.cupertino.org/index.aspx?recordid=463&page=410


Don Bauder Oct. 6, 2011 @ 1:09 p.m.

There are a lot of positive statements floating about on Jobs's replacement. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder Oct. 6, 2011 @ 1:13 p.m.

Foxconn is a Chinese company that makes the iPhone and iPad. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder Oct. 6, 2011 @ 7:52 a.m.

Yes, I had always thought that people in business really do not create markets. Those markets, or at least their potential, have to be there. But maybe Jobs proved me wrong. Best, Don Bauder


ImJustABill Oct. 6, 2011 @ 11:41 a.m.

RIP to a truly great man.

I think Jobs truly was a visionary and I think a lot of Apple's innovations would not have happened without him.

I think he is unique in that regard among high-tech leaders - if Gates or Ellison or Zuckerberg or Yang or Bezos hadn't been around I think there were dozens of other people who would have eventually done the same thing as they did.

I'm not sure you could say the same thing about Jobs. He truly had a knack for seeing how the user interface for electronic products should evolve - and a knack for making it happen.

I know I've said a lot of speculation and what if's that of course could never be proven - but I just think Jobs will really go down as a genius.

Apple's dominant position is not just marketing hype - they really have been able to consistently craft products which set a new level for user interface and user experience.



Don Bauder Oct. 6, 2011 @ 1:15 p.m.

Gates is supposedly worth about 9 times what Jobs was worth at his death, but Gates was no innovator. You can't mention Gates's name in the same breath as Jobs's. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder Oct. 7, 2011 @ 10:40 p.m.

I agree with you. I think Jobs was the kind of genius that comes along only about once in a century. Best, Don Bauder


Burwell Oct. 6, 2011 @ 11:59 a.m.

Jobs was in the transistor radio business, he just didn't know it. Updated versions of the products Apple currently sells, iPhone, iPod, iPad, IMac and iTunes, will be selling for $29.95 at Wal-Mart in ten years or less. There is no money to be made in this technology, or any other technology, over the long term. Sylvania made tons of money in the early 1950s when portable transistor radios were selling for $150 apiece but was out of the business by the 1960s when Japanese transistor radios were selling for $1.95. RCA could not make money selling color TVs. Hewlett Packard cannot make money importing computers and printers from China. Apple will soon falter and the Chinese vendors who manufacture its products will buy the name and start putting out products under Apple's name. Apple will soon be under Chinese ownership when the stock price collapses and its products will designed by Chinese engineers and made in Chinese factories. Design and technology always migrates to the Asian contractor who manufactures the product. Unload your Apple shares while there is still time!


Don Bauder Oct. 6, 2011 @ 1:17 p.m.

Now there is a different point of view. Not a misguided point of view, mind you, but an unusual one. And it may be a correct one. Best, Don Bauder


Visduh Oct. 7, 2011 @ 9:46 p.m.

There was a time when a big breakthrough would keep an individual or corporation in a dominant position for decades until the copycats figured out how to do the same thing and found the capital to make it work. Now, sadly, that dominance can erode in a year or two, and bring the price down as Burwell describes with the transistor radios.

I'd give close consideration to what he says about the ability of Apple to keep these innovations profitable, or lack of such ability.


SurfPuppy619 Oct. 6, 2011 @ 2:51 p.m.

Chinese ownership when the stock price collapses and its products will designed by Chinese engineers and made in Chinese factories

Sorry B-Chinese engineers do not have the brainpower or mindset that America has.


Don Bauder Oct. 6, 2011 @ 6:14 p.m.

You may get an argument on that. Best, Don Bauder


ImJustABill Oct. 6, 2011 @ 3:39 p.m.

I think Jobs DID know that he was in the transistor radio business, and that eventually much cheaper versions of the present Apple products will come up.

That's why he was always trying to innovate. To have a successful high-tech business you must always innovate and stay ahead. Eventually someone will make iPhones and iPads much cheaper. Then the next big thing will come out and make a lot of money. Jobs was really good at coming up with "the next big thing" before competitors. Whether his successors at Apple can continue that trend remains to be seen.


Don Bauder Oct. 6, 2011 @ 6:16 p.m.

Managerially, Apple is set up for engineering innovation. Best, Don Bauder


Psycholizard Oct. 6, 2011 @ 2:16 p.m.

Apple might be overpriced, like Edison's RCA in 1929, but that doesn't mean the company won't grow. Burwell's lament has merit up to the Chinese engineer comment. Chinese engineers are just a green card away from being American engineers. China will have to build a more livable society, if it wishes to lead intellectually. If a Steve Jobs was born in China, he would have to move to California to start Apple, this is where the crazy smart people live,


Don Bauder Oct. 6, 2011 @ 6:21 p.m.

Americans hope your analysis is true -- that the innovation is based in the U.S. However, do you remember the NIH syndrome? Not Invented Here. Detroit suffered it decades ago. It was sure that anything worthy of going inside a car had be be invented in the U.S. Look what happened. Best, Don Bauder


Ponzi Oct. 6, 2011 @ 11:38 p.m.

I was one of the first Apple Computer dealers in San Diego. I expanded into mail order and, due to mercurial success, went on to be the world’s largest Apple Computer dealer of the time. When Apple was rising and making big money, Jobs decided he didn’t need retailers anymore and terminated us with 30 days’ notice. I, along with 6 other dealers sued Apple Computer.

Later in life we would learn how Job, Apple and that enterprise spent more money on litigation – than innovation. Don’t fool yourself, Jobs was no genius, just in the right place at the right time with the right engineers.

Jobs was a big ass. The only thing I can congratulate him on is that with his iPhone, for him now, hell is a local call.


SurfPuppy619 Oct. 6, 2011 @ 11:50 p.m.

Jobs certainly had character flaws, the most glaring was his refusal to admit paternity fo this dsasughter- and denied her emotional and financial support for a very long period. There are reports hius daughter Lisa-from Jobs HS girlfirend, were on welfare while he was a mutli millionaire-that kind of conduct is as bad as it comes.


Don Bauder Oct. 7, 2011 @ 8:13 a.m.

Steve Jobs was not perfect. Who is? Best, Don Bauder


SurfPuppy619 Oct. 7, 2011 @ 8:44 a.m.

Steve Jobs was not perfect. Who is?

I agree, no one is perfect.

Jobs did change the world. The bad news was he did abandon his daughter-the good news is he came around and fixed his mistake.


tomjohnston Oct. 7, 2011 @ 9:20 a.m.

I'm not a psychologist, but given the fact that he was an illegitimate child and his parents abandoned him by putting him up for adoption and then later, after his parents had married and had another child, his father ran out on his mother and sister, it's not all that suprising. I believe that Jobs finally acknowledged his paternity after a couple of years. She lived with Jobs and his wife during her teen years, until she left to attend Harvard. He also reconnected with his biological mother and sister.


Don Bauder Oct. 7, 2011 @ 9:56 a.m.

There is a lot of information on Jobs available these days. He was a remarkable human being. Best, Don Bauder


SurfPuppy619 Oct. 7, 2011 @ 3:10 p.m.

I can only go but what I have read from various (mainly newspaper) sources. One of which was that Jobs falsley claimed in swron court documents that he was sterile and incapble of having children. This claim was made under oath, subject to a perjury charge. That turned out to be false. A blood test in the 1970's would have ruled within a 1% margin of error on paternity, it would have been very easy and simple to make the call on whether he was the biological father.

As I said, he squared it away in the end with his daughter, but not his biological father. My only criticism was that he walked out on his kid, when he had resources greater than 99% of America.


Don Bauder Oct. 7, 2011 @ 9:58 a.m.

There might have been a good reason for his initial refusal to admit paternity. Did he know for sure? Best, Don Bauder


Visduh Oct. 7, 2011 @ 9:51 p.m.

SurfPup, you HAVE to get a spellchecker, or at least read your copy through a couple times BEFORE you hit "Post."


SurfPuppy619 Oct. 7, 2011 @ 10:06 p.m.

i know.

btw-i am gettibg automatic notifications for the first time to my m comments anyone know how to turn it off


Don Bauder Oct. 7, 2011 @ 10:44 p.m.

I am getting some kind of notifications I don't understand, either. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder Oct. 7, 2011 @ 10:42 p.m.

You could say that about me sometimes, too, Visduh. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder Oct. 7, 2011 @ 8:12 a.m.

I can see how your personal experience colors your opinion, which is certainly in a tiny minority. Best, Don Bauder


Twister Oct. 7, 2011 @ 3:07 p.m.

My spouse has been through the hell that cancer brings, and is now a survivor. My heart goes out, as they say, to any creature who has to suffer so, and their families and friends.

But I am puzzled at how much attention is focused on the lives and deaths of celebrities and how little on those closest to us (sometimes). During our fight with cancer, the phone hardly rang. In the "old" days, in rural America (let's be frank, HICK America), people would flood the house with food and sympathy, like T-cells to a wound.

Is hero-worship a spasmodic cultural expression of suppressed (or more likely, overwhelmed) social emotions?


nan shartel Oct. 7, 2011 @ 9:28 p.m.

so sorry to hear that Twister...my blog today is about an ordinary good friend and neighbor who just found out she has cancer of the breast

i think people step away from potential death Twister...even tho cancer isn't catching and most do with a long ugly course of treatment survive.... people are afraid

it gives them the "no ones immortal willys"

it's too bad that people r that way when their friends and relatives need them most

u ask

"Is hero-worship a spasmodic cultural expression of suppressed (or more likely, overwhelmed) social emotions?"

yes twister...it often is


Don Bauder Oct. 7, 2011 @ 10:48 p.m.

Sorry to hear about your friend. Both she and those who love her will go through terrible times before this is over. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder Oct. 7, 2011 @ 10:46 p.m.

You make a good point. Hick America had its virtues. However, I would not put Jobs with "celebrities" like athletes, movie and TV stars, rock singers, etc. He was a technological genius and great manager to boot. Best, Don Bauder


Twister Oct. 8, 2011 @ 4:53 p.m.

I think that is called being a "natural." Unspoiled by academia and misunderstood by its adherents.

Re: By dbauder 10:46 p.m., Oct 7, 2011


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