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Comparatively, Tech Workers Haul in Bucks in San Diego

SP said: "And what makes you think this is true?? Why do you say it is "typical"????.... have you interviewed every employer in CO and found this amazing fact yourself???? You made a claim that has no basis whatsoever." ================================================== Why do I know? This is what I do, SP, I kinda know a little about it. Your response to me is equivalent to you lecturing Don that he doesn't know how to investigate a story. My entire career has been in San Diego, but it may shock you to find out that software engineering is the same in Colorado Springs as it is here, using the same buzz words on job reqs. In fact, a lot of the major employers have offices in both places. I have been involved in hiring engineers for my teams for 20 years, taking far too much time away from my actual job. Between that, talking to my peers and keeping abreast of my profession by periodically surveying the job market, I have a pretty good idea of what a software engineering job req looks like, both in San Diego and around the country. SP said: "If you want to search Craigslist and find a tech position that pays $90K PLEASE DO IT-I want to see it." =============================================== Here is another helpful hint for you: Real software engineers don't look for jobs on Craigslist. I did look up an appropriate jobs site for experienced engineers in Colorado Springs, and the first job that popped up and listed salary was for an embedded C++ engineer (like ME) with 5-7 years of experience at $45-$55 an hour. SP said: "both degrees are much harder and more serious than an education degree" ================================================ Are you seriously claiming that a BA in IT or IS from Bridgeport is harder to obtain and is more meaningful than the masters in education you need from an accredited university to get a teaching credential? Really?
— January 12, 2011 9:51 a.m.

Comparatively, Tech Workers Haul in Bucks in San Diego

So called "diversity" has wrecked genuine teamwork -- I now speak of local teams in one building. In the good old days most everyone was white, American, and had a common education, culture, and value system. For example, it was a bunch of young white guys that put Americans on the moon in just 10 years." ========================================================== Yes, young Americans like Wernher von Braun and Kurt H. Debus led us into space. Similarly during WWII the atomic bomb was developed by a brash young band of Americans led by Albert Einstein, Enrico Fermi, Niels Bohr and John von Neumann, among many others. I agree with Don on disagreeing with your statements about teamwork. I agree with some of what you are saying, but you have a couple of whoppers in there as well. I agree that a team suffers if it is not co-located, but it has been well documented that a homogeneous team (e.g. all young white males, particularly if their background and schooling is very similar) do not produce as good solutions as a heterogeneous mix. I have worked on teams with Russian, English, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Hungarian, Kazakh, polish, South African, Australian, Egyptian, Iraqi, Iranian, Italian, french, German and Mexican engineers (off the top of my head), and very rarely had any issues with teamwork associated with ethnic differences. One of the biggest advantageous we have over India and China is our heterogeneous workforce. Diversity helps spawn new thinking. China and India will have to work hard to overcome the group-think endemic to a homogeneous totalitarian state. I have seen crap work produced 20 years ago under heavy and rigorous process controls that stifled productivity, and I have seen exceptional work produced in a lightweight and highly iterative modern environment with modern tools and massive testing frameworks. The speed of building highly complex systems is night and day faster than what it was 25 years ago. The only "diversity" that has hurt teams I have been associated with is the government and corporate mandates that require hiring unqualified engineers to fill a quota for a protected group. The size and complexity of modern software almost guarantees problems, so patches are completely understandable and acceptable. When in OS was just an OS, was 8 bits and didn't do much, it was possible to foresee and test every possible condition. That is no longer realistically possible. The fact you point to Microsoft WinXP is interesting. Microsoft is legendary for hiring bright young engineers with similar backgrounds that closely fit their culture profile. You have described the problems in WinXP. That development effort resulted from a homogeneous group of engineers in a rigorous culture. Compare that to open source development such as Linux. Internally Google has adopted an open-source mentality, and have been much more successful than Microsoft of late.
— January 11, 2011 3:21 p.m.

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