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"Not when I worked there-everyone was union. Teamsters." I stand corrected on that point. Let me make a correction to post # 5. The 2007 contract got UPS OUT of having to create any more full-time jobs out of part time. IBT got that concession in 1997 and they were trying to retain it in the current contract. The new contract, which took affect on 8-1-2008 also freezes starting wages for part-timers at $8.50 over the life of the agreement.I would guess that's the reason for the low temp wages. Also, new part-timers have to wait a year before they are eligible for individual health benefits and 18 months for family coverage. They also don't get vacation, sick days, or paid holidays during their first year. Instead of increasing part-time wages and benefits, the Teamsters negotiated increases in wages and benefits for full-timers of $9.00 per hour per worker over the life of the new contract. The last contract got full-timers $8.75 increases over the life of that contract, which was 6 years. That's an increase of $17.75 in wages and benefits over an 11 yr period. You really can't say that UPS hasnt raised pay in a quarter century. Obviously they have. I mean, can you think of any union that would not get it's members increases for that long? As for the static part-time wages, that was a decision the teamsters made. The way I see it, they have made the choice for many years to allow part-time wages to be kept low in order to make gains for the full-timers. They are as much responsible, if not more, the UPS is.
— October 8, 2009 7:57 p.m.

In San Diego County, Fat Pensions Mean Higher Taxes

Surfpuppy, I don't have a personal opinion, since I have never been employed by UPS, but unless I am mistaken, UPS hasn't even cracked Fortune Magazine's top 100 of best companies to work for in at least 5 years. I realize that you did not detail your criterion for saying UPS is one of the best, but Fortune Magazine creates their ratings based on how employees rate their own companies. Part of the pay disparity may lie with the fact that temp part time employees are non-union,unless I am mistaken, and therefore exempt from union pay scale. The reason union part time wages haven't changed is that back in the early 80's, the Teamsters agreed to freeze part-time wages in exchange for increases in full time wages and it apparently has been part of the contracts since. UPS went on strike for a couple of weeks 10 or 12 years ago. The main issue of the strike was the increasing proportion of part-time, lower-paid workers at the expense of the higher paid, full time employees. What a suprise. I remember reading at that time that the average non union part-time wage was $11.00 per hour. UPS and the Teamsters signed a new contract a couple of years ago,about a year before their current contract expired. I remember the big deal in that one being that UPS agreed to create something like 10,000 full-time positions from the ranks of part-time employees(over the 5yr term of the new contract), which was about 10x more than UPS wanted to create. They also agreed to raise part time payby about $4.00, which is also over the term of the contract. But again if the temp positions are non union, that's why the pay is still so low. You can blame UPS for not paying their temp help very well, the rest of the wages are what the Teamsters negotiated.
— October 8, 2009 5:19 p.m.

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Ahh Fish Heads. I haven't heard that song in a long, long time. Fish Heads trivia, which actor starred in and directed the video? http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids… We've seen Billy Mumy in one of his other bands a few times around LA. The Jenerators, with among others, David Jolliffe and Miguel Ferrer(he was married to Leilani Sarelle who was Roxy in Basic Instinct. )My favorite Jenerators song........Pussy Whipped http://www.billmumyfanclub.com/jenerators/albums/…
— September 26, 2009 8:20 a.m.

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