New feature today (may be sporadic): the BARNACLE ALERT.

Barnacle Alert: DOUBLE BLADE SLIDING SWORD - $45 (VISTA)

This was a featured Runner-Up of a very early blog of mine!

As for today's featured Runner-Up:

Really Old Laptop - $30 (Normal Heights)

Hmmm, poster has a funny way of spelling "Free Laptop..." Seriously, much better for the world in general to give something like this away to the truly needy. Also, there's that guy who has a flyer posted in Lestat's wherein he takes old laptops and somehow (perhaps by magic) turns them into money for charity. I'm informed this isn't a scheme, surprisingly and admirably enough.

Ladies and Gentlemen--whether you like it or not--Hedw...er...uh....Post of the Day!

Haier - Tabletop Dishwasher - $90 (Norm. Heights)

Suggested Slogan: "Tabletop Dishwasher: Like Not Having a Dishwasher, But With Less Counter Space!"

In all fairness, the tabletop dishwasher is actually pretty neat. I can see how many people, when faced with the prospect of living in a Lightless Torture Dungeon, oufitted with too-small sinks, would leap at the opportunity to have a tabletop dishwasher. Many of these little cells are not equipped with dishwashers of any sort, and doing dishes is not a favorite task to many. For myself, however, the tale is told a little differently. You see, I enjoy the washing of the dishes; taking some small pleasure in cleansing that which was been soiled. Always a favorite pet task of mine when doing restaurant work, too. Never had a problem doing dishes. Doing real dishes--like, heaps and mountains of dishes--can be a very zen experience. You just wash, and wash, and wash, and wash, and let the mind wander, freely exploring all the strangest little corners of your consciousness while endless plates and silver come and go, come and go. I swear, it can actually be quite pleasant.

I realize that few share this sentiment.

The owners of the tabletop dishwasher are likely among the ranks of men and women dispossessed of a love of dishwashing by one-too-many crud-enameled glasses, grease-spattered plates, fork tines death-gripping tiny bits of dried stroganoff, lasagne-shellacked casserole dishes, knife blades streaked with last night's jus, the ghosts of meals long gone and breakfasts only recently departed, those chilling reminders that our meals are anything but sterile pass-times made for waste-free nourishment. These sorts (perfectly normal sorts, but "sorts" nonetheless), these dishnonwashing types would have their cake, eat it, and then let the Haier corporation (surprisingly, not a German company) worry about the sordid, grisly details.

I understand that my pleasure in dishery is not theirs and that my Buddha-esque composure in tackling a veritable Everest of grimy, filthy, far-too-long-left-sitting housewares is not a common trait of 21st-century peoples. I see the need met by the tabletop dishwasher, I see it outlined clear-as-day by the bright pink hi-liter of commerce and it's slightly more nefarious twin, the sketchy felt tipped pen of dubiously-functional-yet-altogether-seductive technologies. I see, as it were, beyond the suds and soap scum, through the haze of cloudy dishwater, the wish to not have shriveled, ruined, dishpan hands. I see a solution--and not a solution of soap and water, fine-tuned to the optimum temperature and degree of sudsiness--a solution to this great dilemma. A ninety (90) dollar fix which, to the right person, may be beyond price itself.

Comments

SurfPuppy619 Nov. 9, 2009 @ 3:23 p.m.

???? I did a fiction blog? When?

By CuddleFish

Everytime you post.

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SDaniels Nov. 9, 2009 @ 3:37 p.m.

Back away from the Fish pond, Puppy! You did NOT stay in the corner a full TEN!

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Adam92102 Nov. 2, 2009 @ 11:43 p.m.

Wait, wait. So what you're saying is for 165 bucks I can wash my dishes and at the same time sharpen my sword while Windows 98 takes its sweet freakin' time to load? I'm in!

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FullFlavorPike Nov. 2, 2009 @ 11:46 p.m.

Hahahahahahaha!

Good to see you, buddy. Hope the migraine's cleared up.

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SDaniels Nov. 3, 2009 @ 12:09 a.m.

""Tabletop Dishwasher: Like Not Having a Dishwasher, But With Less Counter Space!"

[said with frank admiration] Now that's a featured list!

Adam, buddy--migraine? Sorry to hear it, and glad you are better. Hope Stella did her part to help out--(Now there's a tabletop prowler! :)

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SDaniels Nov. 3, 2009 @ 12:17 a.m.

"...while endless plates and silver come and go, come and go. I swear, it can actually be quite pleasant.

I realize that few share this sentiment."

Luckily, I live with "the man," who feels as you do--for I, alas, most vehemently, do not!

PS: Anyone ever see that episode of Martha Stewart, when she has an "expert" dishwasher come on the show and demonstrate how to do dishes, and how to stack a dishwasher? Apparently, instruction's always a GOOD thing! (TM)

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Adam92102 Nov. 3, 2009 @ 12:32 a.m.

Thanks. It cleared up some but didn't go away completely. I powered through tonight, though. And Stella always does her part. If only I could get her to do the dishes, though. But I bet if she had a handy-dandy tabletop dishwasher....

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SDaniels Nov. 3, 2009 @ 2:01 a.m.

Adam, my mom takes Imitrex shots, and the migraine disappears immediately. If they are bad enough, this could be an option...

You know, Stella is an enterprising sort. I bet she, Dexter, and some neighborhood friends could pull in a few extra coins with a dishwashing service slash cat circus side show. Nothing more entertaining than a cavalcade of felines cavorting and capering across the counters. ;)

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CuddleFish Nov. 3, 2009 @ 3:04 a.m.

Oh, so much to say on the topics at hand!

First, my sympathies, Adam, hope you are feeling better soon. SD is right about Imitrex, that's the ultimate in migraine cures. There are some over-the-counter remedies but I suppose you've tried them. One of my favorite all time essays on the subject:

http://www2.lns.mit.edu/fisherp/InBed.rtf

As for the dishwashing, I am totally one of those people who loves to wash dishes now that I am my own dishwasher. I hated washing the Beast's dishes, and for a few years there preferred to let them stack up, that's how much I hated to do his, but now they are a pleasure to wash, because it is exactly as you say, a thing that provokes meditative thinking, you wash and scrub and enjoy the result, something clean and well done, and the whole time your mind is cruising all over the place. Hey sounds like an essay in there. :)

AND, it happens that sken and I know of a lady on another forum that absolutely HATED DETESTED to wash dishes, and was in some kind of ecstatic state when she bought herself a dishwasher! Personally, I don't get that kind of hatred or ecstasy over dirty dishes, I mean, there are all kinds of things you have to clean in your house, why are dishes different? Especially if they are your own, and this lady was single, no kids! I think that tabletop dishwasher would have been perfect for her.

BTW, as to the tabletop dishwasher, I had actually considered getting one of those, not because I needed it, but because I wanted it! Isn't that strange???

Daniels, to be honest, I don't think I'd like a man who always did the dishes. My grandmother used to say, keep in mind these are the old beliefs, that a man's pants would fall down if they washed the dishes! But I do wish I could have had someone help me wash them when I was ill or when there was a stack on holidays!

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CuddleFish Nov. 3, 2009 @ 3:13 a.m.

SD I avoid Martha Stewart when at all possible, only masochists watch that show!!!! (Except for that time Clay was on!) LOLOL Am so not interested in feeling guilty about my method of washing dishes or anything else I do re housework or cooking or baking! Sheesh.

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antigeekess Nov. 3, 2009 @ 9:26 a.m.

"You see, I enjoy the washing of the dishes...I realize that few share this sentiment."

I really don't mind it either, Pike. Thomas Moore also wrote in this book http://www.amazon.com/Care-Soul-Cultivating-Sacredness-Everyday/dp/0060922249/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257268158&sr=8-1

...that he likes doing dishes. There's a chapter in there about the soulfulness of mundane work.

Adam, it sounds like the migraine experts have already weighed in. They probably have the best advice. However, I used to have a boyfriend that got horrible migraines. He had encephalitis as a kid, and it really seemed like maybe it was actually recurring. He would even have episodes that appeared to be a stroke. Scared me half to death -- I really wanted to call an ambulance a couple times, but he insisted I didn't.

His favorite remedy? BC Powders.
http://www.bcpowder.com/products.aspx

I tried to figure out WHY a while back, and noted that other pain relievers didn't have the Salicylamide in them.

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CuddleFish Nov. 3, 2009 @ 9:51 a.m.

Oh, shoot, AG, you remembered me something. ;)

"There's a chapter in there about the soulfulness of mundane work."

That's very Opus Dei, you know!

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CuddleFish Nov. 3, 2009 @ 10:02 a.m.

Haier, by the ways, seems to specialize in uncommon appliances. Well, uncommon for Americans. They have a combination washer-dryer which I'm told is pretty much the standard in Britain, but here of course, those appliances are separate. It's interesting too that the Brits keep their washing machine in the kitchen, ugh!

Haier also does, besides that mini dishwasher, a mini washing machine, and they have, or had, a water cooler dispenser with a mini refridgerator at the bottom. I had been trying to buy one of those for a while, the stores carried them one year then stopped. Guess they weren't that good.

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Joe Poutous Nov. 3, 2009 @ 10:07 a.m.

Why do brides wear white? - so the dishwasher will match the fridge and oven...

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SDaniels Nov. 3, 2009 @ 11:12 a.m.

We used the combo washer/dryer in France, but the deal is--no one ever uses the dryer function--electricity is astronomically expensive! Lots of Euros hang their clothes to dry, then iron.

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CuddleFish Nov. 3, 2009 @ 11:22 a.m.

Yes, my dear AG, they carried them at local stores for a while, then, poof, vanished. Looking at the reviews back then, I guess they weren't very good. You can still get them online but the shipping costs are pretty high, and for a product that seems kind of iffy, I didn't think it was worth it, after all. Wanted one for my gran.

SD, in France, do they also keep the washer thingy in the kitchen?

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CuddleFish Nov. 3, 2009 @ 12:01 p.m.

Oh, forgot to mention, SD, you do know that it is illegal in many parts of San Diego, and against almost all HOA regs, to hang your laundry out to dry.

How stupid is that???? Living in San Diego where the weather is perfect for drying laundry and some yuppie dipshizzles somewhere decided they couldn't bear the sight of granny's drawers flapping in the wind.

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SDaniels Nov. 3, 2009 @ 1:01 p.m.

re: #8: I agree-was being sarcastic.

re: #9: Granny AG's Beat-all Cure-all BC Powders! Available at your local apothecary! Kidding, AG ;)

re: #15: My French "family" kept the washer/dryer combo in the kitchen, yes. They had a pretty big, sweet apartment, with an Empire-era marble fireplace in every room, but for some reason, washed clothes in the kitchen!

re: #16: What about in your own backyard? Will the laundry police show and cite your skivvies?

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antigeekess Nov. 3, 2009 @ 3 p.m.

"Granny AG's Beat-all Cure-all BC Powders! Available at your local apothecary! Kidding, AG ;)"

Hey, not my cure. The migraine guy's. They do have that ingredient that suspiciously absent from everything else, though. Probably doesn't yield a high enough profit margin for other companies if they use it.

After all, packaging on BC Powders is minimal. Other brands have a plastic bottle in a cardboard box. They also spend a fortune on advertising, whereas I haven't seen a BC ad since I was a kid. Maybe the makers of BCs can afford to spend more on actual ingredients.

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hambrosia Nov. 5, 2009 @ 11:52 a.m.

I am still trying to get past the incredible bulleted list of luxury features included with that dishwasher, especially:

  • Door Latch
  • Power Cord
  • Drain Hose (attached)
  • Water Inlet
  • On/Off Button

I once owned one of those latch/cord/hose/water/button free units and it wasn't very efficient.

Given the choice between the (attached) and (detached) Drain Hose, I'm always willing to pay a little extra for the (attached) model...

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CuddleFish Nov. 5, 2009 @ 12:08 p.m.

The on/off button is particularly luxurious!

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FullFlavorPike Nov. 5, 2009 @ 10:35 p.m.

I dunno, I think I could do without the door latch. Seems needless... :D

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 8:23 a.m.

Re: #7: "Daniels, to be honest, I don't think I'd like a man who always did the dishes."

Don't knock it till you've tried it, Cuddle. This kind of thoughtful behavior in a mate can be suggestive of other good, non-necessarily gendered traits, such as being emotionally supportive and a good dependable nursey. Besides, I bet Clay used to like doing his own dishes. :)

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 12:22 p.m.

I love those expressive 'thuds.' Remind me of Garfield. Hey, anyone ever seen garfieldwithoutgarfield.com ? ;)

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CuddleFish Nov. 6, 2009 @ 12:28 p.m.

LOLOL I clicked that first link and went, What?

Now I click this one and go, What???

:))

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CuddleFish Nov. 6, 2009 @ 12:31 p.m.

Eh, by the way, Miss Daniels, is you working on that romantic fiction blog???

And where's PeePee, think he's off somewhere dying of the swiners he didn't believe in?? Or did someone finally find his off button? ;)

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 12:36 p.m.

Haven't started yet. Much sturm und drang around here. Still have to find that pic with Hilary Swank to prove to AG, too.

Pete has been contributing today, and still doesn't believe in the pig flu, far as I can tell :)

So yeah, This Dan Walsh guy just removes all characters from the comic strip except Jon, with some pretty creepy/hilarious results. it's interesting that he was also able to publish a book, "Garfield Minus Garfield," and make his own money off it.

Dan Walsh is to Jim Davis as Robert Rauschenberg is to de Kooning (did the "Erased De Kooning" piece).

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 12:44 p.m.

Look, if I said(which I don't believe I did)that I didn't believe in the swine flu, I was wrong. The only thing that bothers me about it is the pretend hype. Last night on David Letterman, Bill maher was saying EXACTLY what I've been saying all along. I couldn't find a video of it on CBS because the videos only go back to the 2nd and YT didn't have it either. Basically in nutshell, what we're saying is simply: If this is such an epidemic, why aren't we literally walking over dead corpses in the streets?

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 12:59 p.m.

Confirmed Swine Flu Deaths(worldwide)-6,394 Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu...

Confirmed Car Accident Deaths(U.S.) as of '08-43,313 Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...

Confirmed Deaths Due To Cardiovascular Diseases(U.S.)-864,480 Source: http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4478

Leading Causes Of Death(not sure of year) •Heart disease-631,636 •Cancer-559,888 •Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases)-137,119 •Chronic lower respiratory diseases-124,583 •Accidents (unintentional injuries)-121,599 •Diabetes-72,449 •Alzheimer's disease-72,432 •Influenza and Pneumonia-56,326 •Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis-45,344 •Septicemia-34,234 Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/FASTATS/lcod.htm

Are ANY of these important facts getting through to you two braintrusts?

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CuddleFish Nov. 6, 2009 @ 12:55 p.m.

Defend who? Which a**hole? There's so many you need a scorecard to keep up.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 12:49 p.m.

Don't tell me you actually defend this a**hole? If you do, then there's seriously no hope for America.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 1:03 p.m.

I don't agree with this guy's wholesale hatred of race--of course not. He is trying to make some points, badly, about the fact that racism still exists, and is trying to pull some Malcolm X-style rhetoric that shames that thinker's body of work.

You, on the other hand, have not shown that you are any more sensitive to matters of race than he has, Pete. Since day 1 on this site, you've proudly proclaimed your right to call groups of people by names that are heavily laden with ugly, horrific historical significance. Historical significance of which you deny the existence, in most cases, and you persist in asserting that language has only the meanings that YOU personally ascribe to it, like some kind of egocentric wordmaster. It's just sad, and I don't really want to take part in it--but you asked.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 1:05 p.m.

PS: I'm pretty sick of all the links about swine flu, Pete. We GET it. You've discovered that the media exaggerates; something you should have figured out as soon as you sat down in front of a television thirty-odd years ago.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 1:08 p.m.

SD-If one acts like a duck and talks like a duck, guess what?

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 1:12 p.m.

You can't just pick and choose from among definitions, Pete. That's not how it works. Words continue to carry meanings, whether you mean to utter them or not. If this term ever indicated "ignorant person" with no racial inference, that day is gone. You must know this, and you persist.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 1:17 p.m.

ROTFLMMFAO!!!!! Leave it to a bleeding heart liberal to defend the hatred of a black man pulling the race card at every convenient turn. I guess that "white guilt" he speaks about has got you by the balls, SD. For such an intelligent woman, you sure are stupid sometimes. I'll gladly admit that I use words to offend. I do so because it's to my advantage but you don't see me taking advantage. I may not have used the word for two months if he hadn't started his hypocritical whining about the white devil.

It's a shame you can't see the forest for the trees(sigh).

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 1:06 p.m.

I'm so tired of the hypocritical censorship around here.

I'd rather be banned than put up with this s***!

NI&&ER is an ignorant person! Look it up in the f***in' dictionary!

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Russ Lewis Nov. 6, 2009 @ 1:31 p.m.

(#38) "NI&&ER is an ignorant person! Look it up in the f***in' dictionary!"

I'm calling your bluff on that one, Pete. I did look in my Webster's New Collegiate and my American Heritage, and they don't back you up. Quote me any dictionary definition that defines "n!gger" as "an ignorant person," and I'll buy you the burrito of your choice. If you just want to indicate that the other person is ignorant, I'll bet there are dozens of better words than "n!gger."

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 1:36 p.m.

Thanks, russl. That was like, #50 on my current to-do list here on the desk.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:04 p.m.

Funny. It seems the true definition of the word has been scrubs from the history of the world. So far,I've found this: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=56111390&blogId=446547417

Not exactly proof that the word means ignorant person but at least I know that I'm not alone.

And this: http://afrospear.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/n i g g e r-day/

Be sure to read the comment by Jwa X

And this: http://www.oppapers.com/essays/Th-Word-Nigga-Offensive-Towards-Blacks/141545

Notice how the author refers to a person of ANY race as ignorant!!!

I've proven my point.

As a side note,on the second link provided,the auto-censor wouldn't allow that link to be published because it contained the word itself. I've put a space inbetween the letters to be able to publish it. just take out the spaces and the link will work.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:05 p.m.

Never mind about the sidenote. The link still works.

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Russ Lewis Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:20 p.m.

(#44) "Notice how the author refers to a person of ANY race as ignorant!!! I've proven my point." No you haven't, Pete. You can dig up all the folk etymology you want from a couple of blogs and a website that posts college papers for the taking, but I'm still waiting for a definition from a printed dictionary.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:23 p.m.

I've now found this: http://iamthegif.blogspot.com/2008/08/n i g g e r-not-derogatory-term.html

This: http://www.anthonysamad.com/docs/BTL_Americamaden i g g e r s 1_61506.rtf

This: http://www.okcupid.com/forum?tid=6137267184282510855

Be sure to read viejagloria's comment(9th comment down)

This: http://www.helium.com/items/1521217-the-hate-crimes-bill?page=2

This: http://wheniwrite.com/2007/02/25/welcome/

This:http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/54489-way-society-loosely-utilizes-n i g g e r-and-nigga-and-way-they-are-truly-defined-without-human-ignorance

I could go on for hours russl and SD. I'd like a shrimp burrito ala diablo,russl. ;-D

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nan shartel Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:24 p.m.

don't fight...u'll break the dishwasher...then i'll have to do the dishes by hand

and that's no fun!!!

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:25 p.m.

I don't need a dictionary to prove it, russl. It's obviously common knowledge if people other me use the word to describe an ignorant person. Ask the older people around you. They'll set you straight.

Seeing that SD is supposedly an English teacher, I'm surprised she claims not to know the definition. She could be saying that she doesn't out of pure PCism though.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:28 p.m.

I just asked my 81 year old roommate what she thought of when she thought of the word. Her response? An ignorant person.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:34 p.m.

Look, if I work myself enough out of my apathy here, I have access to the entire OED online. That's the Oxford English Dictionary--in it's entirety.

I just don't feel like it--why? Because I think that Pete will be right about something? Nah. Because I don't feel well, and it means signing on to a bunch of pages, for one. More importantly, because this stuff depresses the hell out of me. Sure, there will be plenty of definitional scope on this word--off the top of my head, I recall that in the 19th century and previous, to be "n!ggardly" means to be "stingy."

The thing is, what does any of it prove, in the face of a situation where someone (Pete) is using it, KNOWING FULL WELL its social history and stigma? Pragmatically, it does not matter a whit what it meant in 1865; it matters what this word indicates today, and how the majority of people understand it as a serious epithet of hatred.

It is not some funny little dictionary game we are playing for a burrito, in my opinion, and it is only slightly obtuse to continue some debate over whether or not an archaic usage will somehow "vindicate" Pete's pitiful self-excuses for tossing it at folk. Ya think?

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:35 p.m.

oops, meant in "its" entirety--crossed wires.

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Russ Lewis Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:35 p.m.

You're not listening, Pete. I said DICTIONARY. YOU said dictionary, and I'm still calling your bluff. None of this do-it-yourself folk etymology or wiki websites. I want the REAL DEAL.

"Be sure to read viejagloria's comment(9th comment down)" I did. What an idiot. Crap like that is the very reason that the beginning of wisdom is to trust nothing on the internet.

You've got one last chance to defend your honor and win that burrito. Dictionary or nothing. And make it a print dictionary, not some Urban Dictionary or wiki crap.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:44 p.m.

russl? I thought you were smarter than this? How in the f*** can I prove it's in an actual dictionary when we're online?

The fact that you won't admit I'm right proves that you think I'm wrong. Are you going to tell me next that the sky isn't blue?

Tell ya what-go to ANY used bookstore and search for a dictionary before 1985. Flip it open to the word and you'll figure out that I'm ALOT smarter than you're willing to give me credit for.

And SD? I don't give a rat's ass about the historical signifigance of any word I use. If that's what the word means,than that's what I'm using the word to mean. arinoman is ignorant. He tries to bait bleeding heart liberals like you into loving him because of what your forefathers did years ago. It may work with you but it's NOT going to work on me.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:46 p.m.

"The fact that you won't admit I'm right proves that you think I'm wrong."

That should've read:The fact that you won't admit I'm right proves that you think YOU'RE wrong.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 2:58 p.m.

Right or wrong about what, Pete? As usual, this is useless. You are arguing a contradictory point. Words mean what YOU decide they mean, according to your philosophy, so why bother checking a dictionary? Because a word had some meaning in the past, and entered the dictionary via common usage, you are justified in intending an archaic usage no longer in circulation, or understood by anyone around you? So you are going to pick and choose among definitions, giving certain among them a power that you deny a current usage everyone knows and understands? That makes little to no sense. Further, I've never seen you refer to anyone but a person of African American heritage as a n****r, or outside the context of race. Again, what are you trying to prove?

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 3:11 p.m.

Maybe it's because I tend to respect other minorities opinions enough not to call them IGNORANT. Would you feel better if I started calling you a ni&&er everytime you defend the fake Malcolm X's on this blogosphere?

Is the PC police such a strong presence on this board that A)-they have to defend the black man and not a white guy like me and B)-I have to start labeling the words I use?

Is it THAT bad here that I have to type something like this... A race card puller and a race baiter to me deserve to be called ni&&er(by ni&&er, I mean black son of a bitch and not the ni&&er meaning ignorant person)? If so,you people are all f***ed in the gourd and need psychiatric help ASAP!!!!

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 3:12 p.m.

And SD? Before you start telling people that they should be on other blogs, remember this"useless"argument. ;-D

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 3:25 p.m.

re: #57: I have not defended anyone, though as usual, you pull the trick of calling me "bleeding heart liberal" among other things. Yes, according to your philosophy, you should be referring to me and anyone else you feel to be ignorant as n****r, right? Thus far, it looks like you have reserved it as an epithet for a specific race, so if you want to start recirculating it as a general term for ignorance, knock yourself out.

You feel that on this site, black men are being defended, and that you as a white man are not being defended? Sounds like a persecution issue. As for explaining your terms, yes, that is probably necessary, since you've decided on archaic usages no longer in circulation--or... not.

It's actually not very clear what you are trying to prove about the idea of "PC," except that you feel persecuted and censored, when really, few of your posts are deleted. I'm not sure what you are saying in the ones that are deleted, but they are probably just common curse words, for which you could substitute--if you could tamp down your rage enough, and consult that dictionary a little more regularly.

re: #58: Yes, I still consider that this was entirely useless, and am kind of embarrassed to have participated.

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Russ Lewis Nov. 6, 2009 @ 3:45 p.m.

Thus sayeth Pete: "The fact that you won't admit I'm right proves that you think YOU'RE wrong." Either that or I don't think you're right.

"How in the f*** can I prove it's in an actual dictionary when we're online?" For now, just quote it and cite it. I specified "print" just because anyone can find anything online anywhere to support a claim, and people on sdreader.com seem to regard wikipedia as the gold standard of reference tools.

Unfortunately I can't get out to a used bookstore at the moment, so I opened two reputable dictionaries. They both list archaic definitions of words, and neither listed "n!gger" as having this or any other archaic definition.

It's a very, very narrow point we're arguing here, but if I can find out that you're right on this, I'll come here directly and tell you so. At least you care enough about words to argue over them. You don't argue about things you don't care about. (I once had an arguement with a friend over the word "the." I swear.)

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 3:47 p.m.

Ohhhh, I 'see,' Pete. So, my usual denouncement of your use of the term "n****r" does not apply today, because of the teensy weensy persecution issue you are having? Sounds like this guy has gotten under your skin quite easily. Are you sure that wasn't his intent? Whatever he is doing, it sure brings out the (already habitual) racist in you--and that's all I meant to comment on.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 3:53 p.m.

Remember SD, I'm only a racist if I must point out the obvious...

It must be nice to believe that you're holier than thou. Something tells me SD doesn't think her s*** stinks either....

russl? What part of THE WORD HAS BEEN SCRUBBED FROM ALL ONLINE DICTIONARIES don't you understand? It's relatively simple to understand what I've proven. I've listed 6 links that all prove what I've been trying to say:THE ORIGINAL DEFINITION OF THE WORD NI&&ER WAS IGNORANT.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 3:54 p.m.

In the immortal words of Denis Leary, "I can't believe I gotta get angry about this s***!"

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 3:59 p.m.

Geez, since you guys are dictionary-less, I'll throw you a bone. My ginormous 1966 Random House gives:

Offensive and Disparaging. 1. A Negro. 2. a member of any dark-skinned race. 3. "ni***r in the woodpile," a dubious or improbable element in a situation. esp. when regarded as possibly harmful or undesirable.

You can also add an -ish or an --ry to make adjective or noncount noun.

The etymology is var. of neger, negre, negro--all ref. "black"

Tip: To understand where words were born and what they've been doing since, it's smart to pay attention to the etymologies; they give the origin in Latin, Gk, Germanic languages, etc.

If I sign on to the univ. pages later, I'll give you the OED lowdown, unless Pike gets to it sooner :)

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 4:02 p.m.

re: #63: "It must be nice to believe that you're holier than thou. Something tells me SD doesn't think her s*** stinks either...."

Not at all, Pete. I don't think I'm perfect or holy, or that my excrement smells like anything but what it is. I just don't have to be an insult-hurling racist (or constantly get personal, either) in order to be honest.

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Duhbya Nov. 6, 2009 @ 4:03 p.m.

"I just asked my 81 year old roommate what she thought of when she thought of the word. Her response? An ignorant person."

Which begs me to inquire: What is her response to the word(s) "PistolPete"?

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Russ Lewis Nov. 6, 2009 @ 4:17 p.m.

"THE WORD HAS BEEN SCRUBBED FROM ALL ONLINE DICTIONARIES." Okay, then cite a print dictionary. I'd imagine you must have one around the house.

"I've listed 6 links that all prove what I've been trying to say." No, they prove that somebody made those assertions in some blogs. Yes, you've proven that. One of those same bloggers claimed that "niggardly" comes from the word "n!gger." Dead wrong. Pete, think of all the things I could claim and back myself up with online statements by, let's say, SDaniels. (No offense, SD. Just making a point.)

Maybe I'll try looking up that OED listing myself.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 4:23 p.m.

Boys--and this is my last post on this topic--at least for now: Whatever you find as definitional byproduct, the etymology is always going to be "black," so you won't be able to shake loose this connection. Meaning, whatever twists and turns the word has taken, you will find it has at root a denigrating intent towards dark-skinned people:

"The etymology is var. of neger, negre, negro--all ref. "black""

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 6:33 p.m.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Found it Russl and SD!!!!!!!!!!!

Since this stupid autocensor won't even let me put the link to the word in,I'll link you to the homepage and you can put the word itself in. Pay attention to noun definition #2.

http://dictionary.com

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 6:35 p.m.

Like I said,I'll have a shrimp burrito ala diablo sauce. :-D And an apology would be nice but I doubt I'll get it.

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CuddleFish Nov. 6, 2009 @ 6:55 p.m.

THE ORIGINAL DEFINITION OF THE WORD NI&&ER WAS IGNORANT.

By PistolPete 3:53 p.m., Nov 6, 2009

Nope, no definition of the N-word as ignorant in that link.

I bet if we look under the definition of dumba$$ white people we may get a bit closer to the mark.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 7:03 p.m.

Congratulations for taking all day to reference dictionary.com. Now, you would like an apology from--me? For what, exactly?

Are you so dense that you have not understood anything I have written about this topic today, Pete? Are you completely unable to understand the words I have written in English to you? I never doubted that you would find the definition you were looking for, and told you that it would not matter. It is the etymology that tells you the origin of this word, which is in the idea of color--of BLACK--in particular. This word cannot be uttered today outside the context of a racial slur, and you personally do not have the power to remove that contextual meaning, even if you wished to--which is highly doubtful, considering the way you, personally, have consistently used the word ONLY in reference to African Americans. What is so hard to understand about that, Pete? Did you even read the paragraph accompanying the entire set of definitions?

The term n-- is now probably the most offensive word in English. Its degree of offensiveness has increased markedly in recent years, although it has been used in a derogatory manner since at least the Revolutionary War. Definitions 1a, 1b, and 2 represent meanings that are deeply disparaging and are used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause great offense. Definition 1a, however, is sometimes used among African-Americans in a neutral or familiar way. Definition 3 is not normally considered disparaging—as in “The Irish are the n-- of Europe” from Roddy Doyle's The Commitments—but the other uses are considered contemptuous and hostile.

–noun 1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a. a black person. b. a member of any dark-skinned people.

  1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.
  2. a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised.

Origin: 1640–50; < F nègre < Sp negro black

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antigeekess Nov. 6, 2009 @ 7:43 p.m.

Congrats on dragging your "n****r" obsession over to soil even Pike's blog, Pete.

I'm sure he's thrilled. I know I am.

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Russ Lewis Nov. 6, 2009 @ 8:39 p.m.

You win on a technicality, Pete. "NI&&ER is an ignorant person! Look it up in the f*in' dictionary!" And after consulting enough dictionaries, we were able to come up with one that listed "ignorant" as part of one definition ("a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc."). I still think that's a bit distant from "an ignorant person," and in fact it seems to me that that definition has ignorance as one of several qualities rather than the sole or even main quality.

Still, I apologize for harshing on you earlier, and I never at any time meant to make you feel stupid because I know you're not. I would recommend striking from your vocabulary your use of the word "n!gger" in the sense that you intend simply because that meaning just doesn't get heard. Trust me, it doesn't. For that reason I think you'd be better off adopting some other phrases; I'm fond of the word "dumbs***" myself. Or "epsilon-minus semi-moron" or "coprocephalic." Be creative.

Contact me off-list and we'll settle up.

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antigeekess Nov. 6, 2009 @ 8:45 p.m.

You're gonna settle up with Pete and you won't take 'my' little wager, russl?

;)

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Russ Lewis Nov. 6, 2009 @ 9:06 p.m.

(#76-77) A growing troll's gotta eat, and I'm a man of honor. Pete and I made a bet, I lost, and I owe him. And Miss A to the G, if you're serious, then I will; only thing is, what's the cut-off point? I'd say after seven days.

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CuddleFish Nov. 6, 2009 @ 9:14 p.m.

I thought the source was supposed to be a print dictionary.

This is an Internet "dictionary," isn't that a disqualifier?

You've got one last chance to defend your honor and win that burrito. Dictionary or nothing. And make it a print dictionary, not some Urban Dictionary or wiki crap.

By russl 2:35 p.m., Nov 6, 2009

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Russ Lewis Nov. 6, 2009 @ 9:29 p.m.

(#80) That entry is apparently based on the Random House Dictionary. Good as print, as far as I'm concerned. I was hoping to avoid "wiktionaries" and even less authoritative sources, which seem to be found mostly online.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 9:54 p.m.

"Congrats on dragging your "n****r" obsession over to soil even Pike's blog, Pete.

I'm sure he's thrilled. I know I am."

Try again, AG. Your sister in political correctness was the one who started this conversation. And I quote...

31.Uh, Pete, shouldn't you be back here:

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/da...

calling people "n*s?"

You certainly seem to enjoy that.

By SDaniels 12:48 p.m., Nov 6, 2009

I'll be expecting an apology from you as well. :-D

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 9:56 p.m.

Stop feeding the troll.

By CuddleFish 8:45 p.m., Nov 6, 2009

I thought this was f***in' hilarious coming from you,CF. Apparently you forgot you harrassed refried just last week.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:02 p.m.

"A growing troll's gotta eat"

Yeah, the "growing" part is what is scariest, 'cause we are not talking about 'growing' in a very healthy fashion.

So, let's get this straight, russl. You are going to reward Pete with a meal because he looked at dictionary.com, and found that the N word might be used to call someone stupid, as well as racially inferior! If you think he is going to take your advice (uh, advice repeated by many of us, again and again and again) not to use the N word, you are making another--let's say--coprocephalic--bet. I guess you are daddy substitute while refried's on hiatus. Enjoy your meal.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:08 p.m.

Yes, Pete, I will continue to call out your racist crap, whenever I have the time, energy, and inclination. Not that I think you are going to learn anything from it--that just doesn't seem possible. Nope, I'll do it just for the record, to show that not everyone condones it.

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CuddleFish Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:10 p.m.

Here's what I think: I think that everyone that responds to Pete is enabling him. That's why I have for the most part ignored him. My mistake was to praise his writing yesterday.

I fed the troll. Not doing it anymore.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:11 p.m.

So let me get this straight,SD. It's ok for you to call a spade a spade but it's NOT ok for me to call a spade a spade? Is THAT the bulls you're trying to pawn off tonight? I could start passing out epithets like there's no tomorrow but I'd like to restrict certain words for certain people who truly deserve them. GET OFF YOUR FIN' HIGH HORSE ALREADY,SD!!! I've already seen this side of you and I'm not any more impressed with you than I am with arinoman. I could get real personal with you but I'm trying to be a nice guy about this whole thing.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:14 p.m.

Get off your f***in' high horse as well,CF. EVERYONE knows you're as tranparent as scoth tape. You've proven that.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:15 p.m.

"It's ok for you to call a spade a spade but it's NOT ok for me to call a spade a spade?"

Huh? When do I sling racial slurs at others?

Trying to be a nice guy? You've got a LONNNNNGGGGG way to go, buddy. Empathy 101, Humanity 2A, the list goes on. Not sure if you really can learn this stuff--some of it should have been hardwired, I think.

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SDaniels Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:18 p.m.

PS: I get it, folk. Don't feed the troll. Call me an optimist--I just keep trying. But I'm tired, too.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:23 p.m.

It's a figure of speech,SD. For an English teacher, you sure are pretty stupid. Since you feel the need to call me on my pretend racism, I can't call arinoman on his REAL racism? Maybe I'll start acting like the white supremacist I've been labled and maybe somewhere in an alternate universe there'll be a male, slightly dumpy, Hawai'ian English teacher who will defend my actions...

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CuddleFish Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:36 p.m.

He's an addict, Daniels. You are feeding his addiction.

You are an enabler. Stop enabling him.

Maybe then he can work on his issues.

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skennerl Nov. 6, 2009 @ 10:50 p.m.

The word is only offensive in the context of non-blacks using it to refer to blacks. The blacks use it amongst themselves a lot and that's ok!

I naively used it once on another forum (with a preponderance of Americans)and boy did they go off! My intention in using it was friendly.

But there is deep pain associated with the use of the word that goes back generations. And you really wouldn't want to in any way imitate those that used it back then hey!

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Russ Lewis Nov. 7, 2009 @ 12:22 a.m.

(#84) "You are going to reward Pete with a meal because he looked at dictionary.com, and found that the N word might be used to call someone stupid...." If possible, yes. You'll recall that we made a bet, he complied with the terms of my wager, and he won. (On a technicality.) It's as simple as that. And I would have done the same for you.

"If you think he is going to take your advice (uh, advice repeated by many of us, again and again and again) not to use the N word, you are making another--let's say--coprocephalic--bet. I guess you are daddy substitute while refried's on hiatus. Enjoy your meal."

Dunno; didn't know Gringo was gone. I wonder if you castigate Patti Smith just as harshly as you do Pete. Thank you for the kind wishes though.

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skennerl Nov. 7, 2009 @ 12:44 a.m.

I'm new here - is PistolPete for real or is he jesting?

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PistolPete Nov. 7, 2009 @ 12:47 a.m.

I'm sure she'll excuse Patti Smith, John Lennon, Bob Dylan, et al for using the word because the context that they used the word wasn't associated with any pain on the part of her black brothers and sisters.

Look people, I'm not here to take any of your guilt or bulls***. I've stated many times on here, I'm not here to make nor make anyone like me. You got a beef with me, we can talk about or you can boo-hoo back to wherever rock you crawled out from. Makes no difference to me. I defend white people because I'm a white guy. I don't use racial epithets at every chance because there's no need to. I can't stand certain posters on here sometimes but they've not said anything to me to warrant my use of said racial epithets. The moment one of them claims any kind of racial superiority over me, I'll bring out the big guns. That's EXACTLY what arinoman did-he brought his big guns and I brought mine. And the white man marches on!

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skennerl Nov. 7, 2009 @ 1:14 a.m.

Sorry to hear you have a small penis.

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CuddleFish Nov. 7, 2009 @ 1:29 a.m.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND ONCE AGAIN THE UNDISPUTED CHAMPION OF THE WORLD,

SKEEEEEENNNNNNEEEEERRRRRRLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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skennerl Nov. 7, 2009 @ 2:16 a.m.

I'm going out to dinner soon - just going to have a shower, freshen up, and then head out to the local Italian place. So do we help Pete, or not? Loves his grandmother, yet can't understand those who have pain for what happened to their grandmothers.

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CuddleFish Nov. 7, 2009 @ 2:51 a.m.

Oooh, have a nice dinner! xxxxx

I guess I'd have to say that it is each person's decision.

I personally don't care to waste my time. But to each their own.

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SDaniels Nov. 7, 2009 @ 7:45 a.m.

Skenner, you have a way of summarizing to the heart of the matter.

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PistolPete Nov. 6, 2009 @ 3:42 p.m.

Again,you're missing the forest for the trees. I don't call you,AG,RF,CF,russl,adam,Pike nor ANY of the other posters a ni&&er because I may not agree with you guys 100% of the time but I respect your opinions enough to know that you do make some valid points. arinoman makes absolutely 0 valid points. All he has done is try to justify his racism of whites by pointing out the racism of blacks.

I also do think you are defending him.

31

Uh, Pete, shouldn't you be back here:

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/da...

calling people "n*s?"

You certainly seem to enjoy that.

By SDaniels 12:48 p.m., Nov 6, 2009

By even bringing this particular blog up means that you're defending him. You may not see it, but it's there.

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PistolPete Nov. 7, 2009 @ 10:55 a.m.

Here's a thought:Instead of worrying about the past, why not worry about the future?

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nan shartel Nov. 7, 2009 @ 11:12 a.m.

i see the tornado in the tin can still goes on here...are we or are we not still in the READER anymore homeys???

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PistolPete Nov. 7, 2009 @ 11:30 a.m.

An open question to CF,SD and AG-Since you three seem to obsess over my usage of the English language, do any of you actually have real lives or does real life consist of staying home with your cats?

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CuddleFish Nov. 7, 2009 @ 12:32 p.m.

Actually, I spend about 90% of my time thinking about Clay Aiken, another 9% goes to taking care of my home, my son, my cats. The 1% I give to the Reader, I don't spend obsessing over trolls with small penises. :)

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PistolPete Nov. 7, 2009 @ 12:36 p.m.

So you're a f@g hag with no life then? Is it better to obsess over a homo because you know a homo won't give you any penis and that's better than rejection?

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CuddleFish Nov. 7, 2009 @ 12:38 p.m.

I believe that's what I said, Yes. :)

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nan shartel Nov. 7, 2009 @ 12:44 p.m.

distract them i say...

http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#23ZlK6/www.notmartha.org/archives/2009/10/27/meat-hand// ...don't ya wish u'd had this at Halloween....oooooooooooooooo way creepy and all that....thx Not Martha!!!

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nan shartel Nov. 7, 2009 @ 12:50 p.m.

how wonderfully disgusting is that!!!!

i suppose u could make a penis instead using the meat loaf mix frozen in a condom....but that hand has my vote for insanely awesome!!!

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nan shartel Nov. 7, 2009 @ 12:54 p.m.

Pete i read that noun thang in that dictionary u quoted and u quoted correctly

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nan shartel Nov. 7, 2009 @ 1:04 p.m.

Pike...er um ..Pike...do u live here anymore...have the obquiessense kiddies driven u out of ur own abode sir

wrestlin' as they will upon some offhanded occasion with the more important transgressions of the semantic Universe

chasin' Sambo round and round that tree til all becomes pure delicious butter and the pancakes are served

sometimes it take a long time to find ur way to breakfast

SORRY PIKESTER!!!

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skennerl Nov. 7, 2009 @ 7:03 p.m.

Re #105 - Thanks SD. Yes I think I can 'cut to the chase' pretty well - save a lot of time especially with work. But I would really like to be able to write something with substance, tell a story, rather than just an answer! Don't know that I can. I appreciate your comments. It is useful having an English teacher around!

Dinner was bad :-( It is usually very good, but I felt sick at the end of the meal and have food poisoning. Something on the antipasta platter. My partner is not as unwell but still threw up like me.

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CuddleFish Nov. 7, 2009 @ 7:55 p.m.

Oh sken, that's terrible, I'm so sorry. :(

I hope you feel better soon.

And when you feel up to it, it will be great to read something of yours on the forum.

Take care of yourself. xxx

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SDaniels Nov. 7, 2009 @ 8:33 p.m.

Oh hey, skennerl, hope you feel better--food poisoning is the WORST. Could it have been a badly preserved meat product, I wonder? Just heard Trader Joe's is recalling a bunch of stuff--don't have any info beyond that.

Btw, I am more of a literature teacher than an English teacher (meaning not necess. of English lit or grammar)--I just say "English teacher" as shorthand, for quick understanding. Anyway, just so you know, I'm not about correcting anyone's grammar but my own, if I catch it--UNLESS a hilarious unintended pun results ;)

I look forward to seeing a blog from you of any kind. Cuddle does both issues-oriented and fiction blogs--you don't necessarily have to do a story here. I did a silly "list" blog just to provide people with something to do, and so I could see what kind of lists they come up with--in this way, learned a great deal about current musical tastes.

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