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People are correctly attacking Mayor Bob Filner for personality problems, but citizens, including those of his own party, should not forget the issues on which he was elected. Wisely, he is eating humble pie on the sexual harassment revelations, apologizing to the City and seeking professional help. There is no doubt the media -- especially those beholden to the downtown corporate welfare crowd -- will continue beating this drum. Remember Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky? The public can understand a sex scandal but, unfortunately, often doesn't realize it when its pockets are being picked.

The Union-Tribune, in particular, is slamming Filner over the $100,000 quid pro quo to benefit Sunroad. But you won't find the U-T referring to a very similar case, earlier revealed by the Reader. In 2010, U-T owner Doug Manchester's Texas wing, on a zoning matter, agreed to donate $750,000 to nonprofits beautifying downtown Austin near the hotel Manchester is building. The U-T claims that under the law, government can't condition permit gifts unless the payment is related to the project. Thus, Manchester's $750,000 gift (which of course the U-T doesn't mention) would pass legal muster, but Sunroad's $100,000 gift to nonprofits would not, because those gifts aren't related to the project. This seems a rather silly distinction. If the U.S. Attorney is investigating, it should drop the matter, just as City Attorney Goldsmith should have dropped his asinine pursuit of the chalker. As Charles Dickens's Mr. Bumble said, "If the law supposes that, the law is a ass." Filner or his aide should have known the law, but this should not be a major issue.

The third matter is Filner's trip to France. Filner should explain who paid his way, and reveal whether or not the City paid to give him security. In any case, the supposed $22,000 that the City paid is not a BIG issue. The $300 million gift to the Padres was BIG. The proposed $520 million convention center expansion is BIG.

Filner was elected -- despite his prickly personality -- because he favored moving money from downtown corporate welfare projects to the neighborhoods and to the infrastructure, which has a billion dollar deficit. But the politicians whose names are being thrown around to replace Filner, if he can't overcome these obstacles, are those who would turn the City back to the downtown boosters. Now that is a BIG problem.

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eastlaker July 11, 2013 @ 5:20 p.m.

Can Filner recognize and correct fast enough? He needs to find something to guide him aside from his ego.

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Don Bauder July 11, 2013 @ 6:16 p.m.

eastlaker: Apparently Filner treats women badly, especially when he is under pressure. My guess is that he treats men abusively, too. It's a bad fault, but he is not alone. (Winston Churchill, I understand, was abusive to staffers.) As for the trip to France: the next step is to count up the trips that Jerry Sanders took and how much it cost San Diego to send security with him. This should be eye-opening. The big issue on the Sunroad matter is the fact that the City should have gotten a lot more than $100,000. Can Filner survive? I hope so, because just about everyone who is suggested as a replacement is beholden to the downtown corporate welfare crowd. Best, Don Bauder

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Joaquin_de_la_Mesa July 11, 2013 @ 6:31 p.m.

Should we pay more attention to something that happened in Austin in 2010, or something happening in our own city right now?

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Don Bauder July 11, 2013 @ 8:37 p.m.

Joaquin; What you should do is look at both issues and decide just how different each one of them is. Filner is being called a criminal for doing something stupid, but only by the narrowest of definitions can it be called criminal (if indeed he did it, and not his aide.) The difference is that in Austin the $750,000 went to a nonprofit working in the immediate area. That was not true in San Diego.Best, Don Bauder

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BlueSouthPark July 11, 2013 @ 7:01 p.m.

Filner explained that Landsdowne pressed the issue of having two "security" persons travel w/Filner. Filner didn't want or need it, but Landsdowne said Sanders always traveled w/ the security, thus so should Filner. Filner stated that he made countless trips as a congressperson w/no security, but Landsdowne insisted. The Iranian pro-democracy group paid for Filner's expenses, as they had in the past, per Filner. The only cost to the city was the two security guys. Here's the source of Landsdowne's statements,... his friends at ABC SD: http://www.10news.com/news/investigations/sources-mayor-bob-filners-france-trip-cost-taxpayers-2200007102013

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Don Bauder July 11, 2013 @ 8:39 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: As I said, someone should add up how much the City spent on Sanders's travels. I believe the answer would shut up the people screaming now. Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK July 12, 2013 @ 7:47 a.m.

in light of recent events, how much went for booze and hookers?

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:06 p.m.

Murphyjunk: You seem to be assuming that the sexual harassment with which Filner is charged relates to sexual intercourse, or blatant attempts to accomplish same. We don't know that is this case. From all that has been written, the sexual harassment Filner is accused of appears to be verbal abuse of women in the workplace, not attempts to seduce females. We also know that Filner abuses men, too. Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill July 11, 2013 @ 7:02 p.m.

You know what I think is a big waste of time is how every time a leader gets in trouble the entire staff has to get "training". Filner mentioned that today - his staff has to undergo harrassment training. Why? Did anyone on the staff do anything wrong except Filner? Why should staff members who didn't do anything wrong waste their time with training that they don't need? It's like when an executive does something grossly unethical and an entire company has to undergo ethics training.

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Don Bauder July 11, 2013 @ 8:42 p.m.

ImJustABill: It is critical to know what kind of "sexual harassment" Filner is apparently guilty of. Was he trying to seduce women in the office? Or did he mistreat women when he was irate? I believe the latter is the case, and it is deplorable, but I would add one thing: Filner mistreats men, too. He needs an anger management course. I don't know that it would do any good. Best, Don Bauder

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SurfPuppy619 July 11, 2013 @ 9:16 p.m.

It is critical to know what kind of "sexual harassment" Filner is apparently guilty of. Was he trying to seduce women in the office? Or did he mistreat women when he was irate? 20 years ago, in 1993, I made a comment, joking, about one of the secretaries "showing some leg" b/c of her short skirt. She went off on me, it was an innocent comment on my part, but looking back it would almost certainly qualify as sexual harassment. I never made that mistake again. NEVER make any jokes/comments/anything about a persons body, male or female, at work, no matter what the context.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:31 a.m.

SurfPup: Good advice. My guess is that all of us ignore that advice on occasions. Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill July 12, 2013 @ 6:59 a.m.

Yes, there is a wide variety of behavior which might be considered "sexual harassment" now ranging from complimenting a co-worker's appearance to demanding sex for promotions. So in order for me to assess Filner I would want to know more detail about what he did.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:10 p.m.

ImJustABill: Somehow, I don't think that complimenting a woman on how beautiful she looks in a dress merits a jail sentence, but I guess I am old-fashioned. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 12:33 a.m.

THAT is now called "old-school." Off with his head!

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:04 a.m.

monaghan: A paraphrase: "Lop off, if you must, this old gray head, but do not...." Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK July 12, 2013 @ 7:48 a.m.

sounds a lot like when some celebrity messes up ( gets arrested) and announces they are going into rehab.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:12 p.m.

Murphyjunk: In Hollywood, that's GOOD publicity -- Justin Bieber, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears (sp?) etc. Best, Don Bauder

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SurfPuppy619 July 11, 2013 @ 7:07 p.m.

You know what I think is a big waste of time is how every time a leader gets in trouble the entire staff has to get "training". In real life, in the private sector, and even gov, this conduct would get you canned.........

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ImJustABill July 11, 2013 @ 7:25 p.m.

Yeah. I have a feeling we will eventually find out the whole story. What exactly did he do? I'm holding out judgment until I find out exactly what he did - was this an inappropriate relationship thing (side fling with a staffer) or something where he was abusive (trading favors for sex)?

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:32 a.m.

ImJustABill: Good point. The accusers have to come forward. Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK July 12, 2013 @ 7:50 a.m.

and how far back will more of his "indiscretions" come to light ?

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 3:34 p.m.

Murphyjunk: My guess is that the starting point will be when he took over as mayor, but I don't know. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:14 p.m.

ImJustABill: I think it is wise to withhold judgment until more facts are in. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 11, 2013 @ 8:47 p.m.

SurfPup: Bill Clinton in fact got sex from women who worked at least indirectly for him. Ditto Jack Kennedy. Harry Truman had a bad temper. Winston Churchill abused people who worked for him. In a large public company, abuse of the sexual variety and of the mistreatment variety does get top executives fired. If the boss owns or at least controls the company, it doesn't. Best, Don Bauder

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Fred Williams July 12, 2013 @ 2:49 a.m.

President Johnson, according to his biographer, frequently pulled out "jumbo" not just to impress the ladies, but to intimidate the men.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:34 a.m.

Fred: Johnson's language was extremely coarse, as were his habits. One time he was dictating to his secretary and had to defecate. He had her accompany him into the bathroom and continue to take notes as he sat on the potty. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:19 p.m.

Fred Williams: On another occasion, Johnson said (I have had the exact quote in the Reader some time ago but I am doing it from memory now), "Let's go over there and cut their d**ks off and put them in our pockets." Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:15 p.m.

SurfPup: I don't know whether his secretary was laughing out loud. Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill July 11, 2013 @ 7:12 p.m.

Donna Frye again demonstrated her integrity today. Whether or not one agrees with her it's almost unheard of for a politician to ask a member of their own party to step down.

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Don Bauder July 11, 2013 @ 8:48 p.m.

ImJustABill: Donna Frye has great integrity and should have become mayor. It was stolen from her. Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK July 12, 2013 @ 7:51 a.m.

or maybe she was upset he did not harass her.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:20 p.m.

Murphyjunk: That was an insensitive comment, although you probably didn't realize it. Donna was married some time ago to a very abusive husband. Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK July 13, 2013 @ 8:20 a.m.

sorry about that, just water cooler talk getting out of hand.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 12:05 p.m.

Murphyjunk: Water cooler talk can get one in trouble. Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK July 13, 2013 @ 2:06 p.m.

especially when I am the one to repeat it.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 6:06 p.m.

Murphyjunk: Let's put the topic to rest. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:07 a.m.

monaghan: Murphyjunk already regrets the remark. Let's leave him alone now. Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill July 11, 2013 @ 7:25 p.m.

So what exactly did he do? Anyone know yet? Or even unsubstantiated rumors?

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Don Bauder July 11, 2013 @ 8:52 p.m.

ImJustABill: As of this writing, the women who were allegedly harassed have not come forward, supposedly because they are afraid to do so. A big question: was Filner trying to seduce women who worked in his office, or did he abuse them verbally? We don't know yet. Neither is good. We do know that Filner abuses both men and women verbally. Best, Don Bauder

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SurfPuppy619 July 11, 2013 @ 9:12 p.m.

Donna Frye knows, she should spill the beans. Transparency is the cure for mudslinging.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:35 a.m.

SurfPup: Agreed. Donna is the champion of transparency, but we don't have enough information yet. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 3:38 p.m.

ImJustABill: I think she has talked about it publicly, but I can't remember what transpired. Best, Don Bauder

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HonestGovernment July 11, 2013 @ 8:59 p.m.

Just want to say how glad I am that The Reader and all the good investigative Reader journalists who constantly contribute news about San Diego do NOT feel that they need to announce their personal opinions that others "must" resign or do anything because "they" have lost confidence, even though they "wouldn't begrudge anyone who takes issue" with their judgment. As if their opining mattered a whit to anyone, anywhere.

Seriously, this town is a fool's paradise of Dante-quoting "magicians and clairvoyants who would see the future march forever looking backward" (from an essay on Dante by Diana Shemo, NYT, 1995).

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:38 a.m.

HonestGovernment: Nobody can really draw opinions on what has been revealed at this point. There are too many holes in the story now. Best, Don Bauder

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Burwell July 11, 2013 @ 9:25 p.m.

Filner's fate rests on whether he merely made crude sexual comments to these women, or whether there was groping and physical contact. The fact that Frye broke into tears may indicate that Filner was a groper. If Filner was grabbing handfulls, then he will likely be prosecuted for sexual battery. I think Filner is being given the choice of either resigning and facing civil suits, or not resigning and facing civil suits and possible prosecution. In my opinion, the US Attorney is going to pull out the stops to find a way to turn the Sunroad donation into a crime, to get Filner out of the way because he supports medical marijuana. Filner needs to find a criminal lawyer and raise money for his legal defense. He probably needs to hire Milton Silverman or another lawyer of his caliber. He's in real trouble.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:41 a.m.

Burwell: The big money is trying to get rid of Filner, and ironically it is using his fellow Democrats to do so. Yes, Filner has problems. He has so many personal enemies -- people who agree with his views but dislike him -- so raising money could be difficult. A lot of Democrats want to replace him. So do Republicans who will have all the money at their disposal. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 12:43 a.m.

"The fact that Frye broke into tears may indIcate Filner was a groper." Maybe she broke into tears from participating in an evidence-free lynching of a former compadre. That could upset a perpitrator.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:11 a.m.

Monaghan: The three who claimed that Filner should resign because of sexual harassment still have time to produce victims whose stories must be assessed by the public. After a certain amount of time with no one coming forward -- maybe two weeks -- then the matter should be dropped, although it won't be. Best, Don Bauder

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rdotinga July 11, 2013 @ 9:55 p.m.

"Just want to say how glad I am that The Reader and all the good investigative Reader journalists who constantly contribute news about San Diego do NOT feel that they need to announce their personal opinions..."

Yes, Reader writers are known for that.

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SurfPuppy619 July 11, 2013 @ 11:49 p.m.

Randy-why do you constantly throw bombs here?????

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Duhbya July 12, 2013 @ 6:20 a.m.

Pup - easy answer: rearrange the letters in Dotinga and you get : "Goad nit". And here's one that you'll appreciate: add Randy to Dotinga and you get "Randy anti-dog". :>)

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SurfPuppy619 July 12, 2013 @ 9:17 a.m.

"Randy anti-dog". :>)" Grrrwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:28 p.m.

SurfPup: He may be anti-dog but that doesn't mean he is against the SurfPup. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:27 p.m.

Duhbya: Rearrange Dotinga and you also get God Ain't. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:24 p.m.

SurfPup: What's wrong with journalists throwing bombs? Randy's insults advance the dialogue and are welcome around here. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:42 a.m.

Randy: I note a little sarcasm there. Best, Don Bauder

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Robert Mizrachi July 12, 2013 @ 7:18 a.m.

Hello Mr Dotinga. I'd like to invite you to contribute stories to our Neighborhood News section. Thanks for considering. http://www.sandiegoreader.com/neighborhood-stories/ regards RM

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:31 p.m.

Robert: Randy is a free-lance writer. He might take you up on that. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:14 a.m.

monaghan: I am not sure what you believe is "a good one," but I hope you are referring to the colloquy in this blog. There have been many perceptive comments. Best, Don Bauder

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sandiegogramma July 11, 2013 @ 10:28 p.m.

Too many words...too few facts! Really , San Diego? Whatever happened to a person is innocent until proven guilty? The shock of the allegation on Wednesday night filled me with sadness for what could have been, however, the trio's clownish appearance on TV giving the details (???) for their accusations filled me with anger. I'm not ready to give up on Mayor Filner yet. Hang in there, Bob! I'll walk with you until serious facts are made public that question your ability to lead our fair city!

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:44 a.m.

sandiegogramma: Filner has made a lot of enemies through the years and they are ganging up on him -- both people who agree and disagree with his views. Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill July 12, 2013 @ 7:05 a.m.

He may very well have been proven guilty to the 3 who spoke up. We don't know what Frye, Gonzalez, and Briggs know. For all we know, Filner has been proven guilty to them. They may have incontrovertible facts and data that prove conclusively that Filner is unfit for office. We don't know because they haven't said exactly what they base their request for resignation on.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:34 p.m.

ImJustABill: The accusers haven't come forward and the three who mentioned the women's alleged sufferings have not been specific. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery July 12, 2013 @ 2:09 a.m.

Don, you are like a breath of fresh air. I agree with everything you say here including your always polite replies to the comments. I particularly agree with your last paragraph:

"But the politicians whose names are being thrown around to replace Filner, if he can't overcome these obstacles, are those who would turn the City back to the downtown boosters. Now that is a BIG problem."

There is a lot of money involved downtown and on the waterfront. I fear that that is really what this is all about. Filner is refusing to play their money games and they want somebody who will. I hope for the sake of all of us that he survives.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:46 a.m.

patflannery: Great to hear from you again. Yes, there is a lot of money involved downtown. But it is NOT the money of the corporate welfarists who are pushing for the projects that Filner may disapprove. It is taxpayers' money. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery July 12, 2013 @ 8:45 a.m.

Don, I should have written "there is a lot of PUBLIC money involved downtown and on the waterfront". Thanks for pointing that out.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:37 p.m.

patflannery: We could both point out that the biggest gobblers of taxpayers' money call themselves conservative Republicans who don't believe in welfare. That's true: they don't believe in welfare for the needy. But they strongly believe in welfare for the rich. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 12:56 a.m.

Filner will have to fight to survive and to surround himself with people who can stand up to him AND vanquish the opposition that wants to bury him. He will need to listen, to be strategic and to stop pushing people around. Or he can continue to do what he's always done and be driven from office. I hope he takes stock, changes, fights and prevails.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 4:38 p.m.

monaghan: And he CAN vanguish the opposition that thus far refuses to come up with specifics. Best, Don Bauder

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Fred Williams July 12, 2013 @ 2:57 a.m.

Pat, unfortunately you and I have both labored in the trenches of San Diego politics.

As a result, we cannot take for face value the supposed scandal that's so convenient for the big players downtown. Donna Frye is someone I respect, and I sincerely believe she would not spread false or malicious rumors. Still, where is the evidence, or any specifics in the allegations, delivered third hand.

Don is right. There are BIG stories to follow...

...like what Cory Briggs has to say about the corruption continuing under the new Mayor. That's what I want to hear more about. That happens to be extremely important, and if he's got evidence to back up his allegations (unlike the still unknown "victims" the media is salivating over interviewing) then real journalists should be very interested.

Let's see if Randy or any of the other hacks can actually read and understand such evidence, or if they'd rather speculate about supposed sex stories.

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Brian_T_Peterson_DVM July 12, 2013 @ 6:32 a.m.

Fred, Thanks for your comments here, and elsewhere, helping to keep eyes on the ball: The issue is not sexual harassment. It is the ongoing corruption and abuse of power at City Hall. Sexual harassment just happens to be one thing that everyone, including “The Conservatives,” can appreciate as wrong. One of the reasons the City Council approved the Sunroad deal is that The Conservatives thought that the $100,000 payoff was “a good business deal.”

Don, Regardless of the dollar amount involved, you must agree that cutting special deals to fund a project in one community, so a development can happen in another community, is bad government. This is just like the Grantville money transfers, using $46 million of Grantville’s property tax to fund projects elsewhere, just so redevelopment can happen in Grantville. Sure, the dollar amounts of Sanders’ backroom deals probably far outweigh anything Filner would consider. But, Filner’s smaller deals are still a betrayal to those who voted for him. This is the mentality of corruption that permeates City Hall. In addition to sexual harassment training, let’s give the Mayor and his staff corruption training. The government should not be in bed with big business.

Brian

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patflannery July 12, 2013 @ 9:35 a.m.

Hi Fred and Brian,

If you haven't seen Cory's Sunroad lawsuit already here it is:

http://www.briggslawcorp.com/site/files_user/1373477951085.pdf

I agree with him that the best way to prevent either the City Council, the Mayor or City staff from playing money games with City property is to make them obey the law. That's what Filner should have done instead of demanding money from Story, no matter how it was to be used.

I think Cory's lawsuit should be the main object of media attention not sexual harassment, which as you rightly point out Brian, is taking our eyes off the ball. "If it bleeds it leads" is the motto of the media. If no blood then sex. Unfortunately Marco and Donna gave them the sex. They are in a frenzy.

I just wish Cory had not joined them in calling for the Mayor's resignation. That was overkill and not good for the city. I hope he now continues to do what he does best, protect the commons and leave the protection of vulnerable females to those best qualified for that sensitive job.

Perhaps Filner should rehire Donna and put her in charge of female sensitivity at the City.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 12:23 p.m.

patflannery: This could be a suit that Cory will win. Yes, if the government is to give away land, there should be a nexus between the project and the land to be given. It's apparently the law. But isn't this distinction rather stupid? You can buy off the government if you donate to a nearby charity, but not to one a few miles away. That seems to be the gravamen. But I make two points: 1. The distinction gets a little silly; 2. This is a CIVIL -- repeat, CIVIL -- matter. It is not grounds for a criminal investigation. Filner and/or his aide should have known the law. But that's hardly an offense that should send either or both to jail. If the U.S. Attorney's office is actually pursuing this matter, it should drop it now, because it appears to be part of another piling-on move against Filner. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery July 14, 2013 @ 1:05 a.m.

Yes, I think that part of the MC should be amended. As it stand right now it encourages corruption, as you say.

Cory's case is important not just because of the $100,000, which has in any case been returned, but because the City did not follow due process.

The judge, whoever the case falls to, may feel obliged to enforce the fundamental principle that we must always be governed by laws not by men. That is really what is at stake here.

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SurfPuppy619 July 14, 2013 @ 9:36 a.m.

Pat Flannery-than you for the lawsuit link. Good stuff...

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:22 a.m.

patflannery: A key point, not in the legal dispute, is that the City should have gotten more than $100,000 for that Sunroad deal. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 7:32 a.m.

Brian: Grantville is the classic example of the government shifting money from one part of town to fund something else in another part. I agree it is bad government and have said so all along. But in this case the government won in court. I have also said all along that Filner or his aide used bad judgment on that Sunroad deal. But some think the U.S. Attorney's office will use this bad judgment to pursue a criminal case. I disagree with that completely. The precedents in these cases involve civil matters. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:49 a.m.

Fred: Good points. Remember, we don't know if the sexual harassment charges involve SEX, per se. They may involve mistreatment of women...by a politician who mistreats men as well. Best, Don Bauder

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BlueSouthPark July 12, 2013 @ 7:34 a.m.

If you want to see political hackery and stupidity defined, watch the watchdog: http://www.utsandiego.com/video/play/58171/

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 7:54 a.m.

BlueSouthPark: Make sure you save this pathetic video, although it has already gone viral, at least in San Diego. Hopefully, when this whole matter is history, somebody will do a study of the local media's disgraceful handling of this. The study will bring shame on San Diego. First, the video was shot when Filner was single and not, to my knowledge, engaged. There is no indication he kissed the lady -- but if he did, so what? At least, the political snooper who tailed Filner and took the harmless footage is named, so we know who he is.

CONFESSION: On Saturday night and again on Tuesday, my wife and I hosted after-concert parties. On Saturday, we had heard the American Brass Quintet, the greatest such quintet. On Tuesday, we had heard the young pianist Joyce Yang, called the greatest pianist of her generation. We were all enchanted. Over the course of those evenings, I hugged at least a dozen women, including one who had married two days earlier, and her new husband was standing right there. I hugged Yang, whom I have hugged before. I also hugged several men who are music lovers. My wife hugged both women and men at both parties. The Union-Tribune was not there, to my knowledge, nor was a political snoop taking photos. Many of us were photo'd several times, and we had our arms linked. Thus far, there has been no scandal. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 7:59 a.m.

BlueSouthPark: I forgot to mention one thing about that disgustingly amateuristic U-T video Notice that the headline said "Sexual Assault Allegations." At the time this came out, there had been no suggestions of "sexual assault." Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 12:27 p.m.

HonestGovernment: As of Saturday, July 13, there has still been no suggestion of "sexual assault," to my knowledge. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 1:17 a.m.

I regret that U-T TV can count my viewing this searing indictment of what's passing for news over at the Manchester's Union-Tribune. Bimbo and Watchdog run old tape of then-Congressman Filner getting out of a car and drinking water? OMG, get the FISA court to lock him up without further a-due process! Shameful tape is right.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:26 a.m.

monaghan: It is up to everybody to send that disgusting U-tube to as many people as you know, so that San Diegans know what the U-T is all about. Best, Don Bauder

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BlueSouthPark July 13, 2013 @ 11:10 a.m.

Don, It's good to hear of your life and the pleasure you take in music. I totally understand what you are saying. Some people express themselves by making physical contact with others, in moments of camaraderie or in moments of disagreement. I'm only talking about contact that is generally thought to be acceptable to the situations, not about violence in any form. In a work place, the natural tensions between bosses and employees don't allow for those types of social interactions. I know that Filner is a contact-type person, and an old-school one to boot; I have witnessed it. I want to believe that Filner doesn't fully comprehend the restraints in the workplace, and that nothing he did is criminal. Today's employees, young and old, and esp public employees, have been well-schooled in current standards of what constitutes "sexual harassment." The category includes boorish infractions of a far less than criminal nature. An employer who violates any of the standards of behavior should be called to task properly. Filner has asked for an investigation of his behavior. That means his accusers have to be explicit about what he did. I'm waiting to judge for myself, on the facts. Oh, and did you notice in the UT tv video that the female continually grabbed at and pawed the guy! That's how some people interact.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 12:48 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: The fact that Filner's key aide resigned is unfortunate, and may suggest that there is more to come. But again, it seems to me, at this point, that it comes down to this: Filner is arrogant and abrasive. He has a temper. He treats his employees badly. That's bad. He may treat women worse than he treats men. That is bad. Does he use his position to try to seduce women? If he does, that is bad. It is also what happens in Washington, D.C. where men of immense power lord it over women for sexual reasons. Jack Kennedy. Bill Clinton. Lyndon Johnson. The list is endless. Maybe Filner didn't realize that the Washington D.C. lifestyle doesn't fit in San Diego. We have to see what more comes out. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:40 p.m.

Fred Williams: I respect Cory Briggs, but I do believe he was conflicted when he wanted Filner to resign over unspecified sexual harassment charges when he has a lawsuit pending against the City. Best, Don Bauder

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Anon92107 July 12, 2013 @ 3:40 a.m.

Don I agree with all of your readers who have the greatest respect for your investigative reporting and opinions.

Far too many men (especially powers that be) still fail to give women proper respect, and we still refuse to ratify the ERA, which are major social and cultural failures that are preventing far too many Americans and peoples around the world today, as well as future generations from having an acceptable quality of life.

Thus a worst case scenario fact of life about our civilization today is that all of our worldwide social and cultural institutions are dominated by men who marginalize women, which is our greatest biological limitation that prevents our civilization from perpetuating an acceptable quality of life for all future generations.

We must do better, and today is a great day to begin fixing our failed cultural values, starting with actually practicing equal rights for women, including zero tolerance for sexual harassment.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:51 a.m.

Anon92107: I agree. We men still do not give women the respect they deserve. We are a long way from parity. Best, Don Bauder

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Sjtorres July 12, 2013 @ 5:27 a.m.

It's really disgusting that Mr Bauder is defending sexual assault just because he's an ideological ally of the Mayor.

Same goes to the SD Democratic Party leadership, and Todd Gloria, etc.

They're all saying about sexual assault: "nothing to see here, let's move along."

Reprehensible and inexcusable. But then again, they've been covering for Filner for years.

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Duhbya July 12, 2013 @ 6:24 a.m.

"..... Mr Bauder is defending sexual assault". Really? That's truthfully how you interpret his commentary? How's that reading comprehension course working out for you?

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:56 a.m.

Duhbya: I have not heard that Filner ASSAULTED anyone sexually. There are charges of sexual harassment that could include verbal abuse. The charges, if true, are reprehensible. But let's find out what they specifically are. We need some examples from the victims. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:43 p.m.

Duhbya: I will be very suspicious if the women who have told their stories to Donna Frye and her colleagues do not come forward publicly. I don't buy the argument that they are afraid to do so. If they were once afraid, they shouldn't be now. Best, Don Bauder

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HonestGovernment July 13, 2013 @ 7:24 a.m.

Who are they afraid of? The media is the only thing I can imagine - but the people making the allegations don't get to use the media one-sidedly to take down the Mayor and otherwise hide in the shadows. I'm glad you reported Filner's statement as of last night. As for the media, KPBS says they've been investigating for months...why months? Talking to the accusers? And Marcela Escobar-Eck is tweeting horror that the media are pursuing the accusers, so apparently everyone knows who they are except the public. This is just horrifying, and the way it's being done makes it look like a political lynching involving Dem factions. The accusers have undermined their own case and may be being used by everyone.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 8:06 a.m.

HonestGovernment: A poll published Saturday morning shows the public overwhelmingly believing Filner should get out of office. This poll was taken before any of the alleged victims have come forward and stated the alleged offenses publicly. As I have said, the San Diego media's handling of this, and the public's instant response, along with the political forces aligning themselves in curious ways, and Filner's blindness to the fact that the establishment would be gunning for him, would make an excellent study. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 6:53 a.m.

Sjtorres: Sexual assault? I don't believe that charge has come up yet. Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK July 12, 2013 @ 7:54 a.m.

How long before some lawyer crawls out to represent ( convince ) some of those ladies they can sue the city for damages?

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:45 p.m.

Murphyjunk: I would think it won't be long -- unless, of course, the women really don't have a case. Best, Don Bauder

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photog921 July 13, 2013 @ 9:24 p.m.

Marco Gonzalez, one of the three press conference accusers, has said himself, that several of the women are his "clients." And that they might sue. And if they do, his firm would represent them. More conflicts, I would say.....

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HonestGovernment July 12, 2013 @ 8:23 a.m.

Well MurphyJ, the lawyers already made their stage entrance. Though Briggs wanted public notice only of his anti-corruption battles in general, Gonzalez claimed dibs on harassment clients. He advertised his firm as standing ready to represent the unnamed accusers, "depending on Mayor Filner's response." He's basically already representing these "folks" in this new paradigm for torts.Some might call this extortion.

His use of Dante to bolster his seriousness of purpose seems less than divine: his actions are to force the public to ignore the distinctions between licit and illicit inappropriate behavior. He would do better to study Hegel (Natural Law):

Dante's Divine Comedy is without fate and without a genuine struggle, because absolute confidence and assurance of the reality of the Absolute exist in it without opposition, and whatever opposition brings movement into this perfect security and calm is merely opposition without seriousness of inner truth.

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MURPHYJUNK July 12, 2013 @ 9:22 a.m.

I hope Gonzalez has the same success he did with the fire works fiasco .

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:49 p.m.

HonestGovernment: It makes me queasy that Gonzalez joins in the group that states the unspecified charges, then announces he wants to represent any of the women should they want to file. Best, Don Bauder

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HonestGovernment July 13, 2013 @ 8:55 a.m.

Actually, MGonzalez stated on July 11 that they were "clients." That normally means that they had already signed an agreement and/or paid a deposit.

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photog921 July 13, 2013 @ 9:27 p.m.

I was wondering if that was actually accurate (that they were clients). Signed agreements? If so, it seems like a serious conflict for Gonzalez.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:35 a.m.

photog921: It seems to me that Gonzalez has a problem. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:33 a.m.

HonestGovernment: If they are clients, Gonzalez should file suits quickly for his own credibility's sake. It appears that he is throwing the bomb, firing up the hungry media, then waiting to file the cases. Does this square with legal ethics? Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:36 a.m.

monaghan: I am usually not guilty of understatement. Maybe in that case I was. Best, Don Bauder

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Ponzi July 12, 2013 @ 8:54 a.m.

Filner’s problem is micromanagement. He may have made a decent legislator, but he is no chief executive. He’s not equipped to lead, compromise, unify or build consensus. He sticks his nose into too many issues that should be left to the bureaucracy. He does not know how to delegate.

The sexual harassment claims are a lightening rod, a side show. The real problem is that while Filner is a passionate man with his heart in the right place, he is not a skilled leader. The anemic governance of Dick Murphy and Jerry Sanders has left San Diego starving for leadership. The city threw its hopes at Bob. The choices were bleak.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:52 p.m.

Ponzi: You may be right on that. Congress is a different keg of nails. Possibly Filner does not have the personality to administrate. He may make snap judgments. However, these are not reasons to bounce him. He can't be as bad as Sanders and Murphy. Best, Don Bauder

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Ponzi July 13, 2013 @ 10:05 a.m.

Don, I like Bob Filner. I enjoy the way he is shaking up the establishment. I feel some of his micro-management has been positive; like dealing with that Jack In The Box in North Park, the bird droppings in La Jolla Cove, and actively listening to community issues all around San Diego. However his management style is part of the problem. By not delegating, he has no buffer between himself and so many people that may take his efforts to be fond of people, personally. Is he a “harasser” of just an unusually “touchy-feely” guy? Either way, by not having others carry out his tasks, he exposes himself to too many opportunities for his behavior to be misinterpreted.

We will not know until specific allegations are disclosed, how endemic and in what context. Regardless, when one has lost his close circle of support, trust and respect have evaporated, that leaves him trying to manage in a vacuum. Although he asked for help, he may simply have too many problems of his own to deal with before he can steer San Diego out of its problems. Deft political actors either deny and carry on, or admit and resign. Bob has painted himself into a corner.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 1:03 p.m.

Ponzi: We still have not heard the stories of the self-proclaimed victims. I don't know how we can make a decision without those stories -- and without making judgments on whether the stories are credible. My guess is that publicity-hungry persons of both sexes will come forward and claim they have been abused by Filner, whom they have never met. San Diego has made so much headway under Filner. I would hate to give it away, especially since Democrats coveting the post such as Gloria and Kehoe could not be trusted to pursue Filner's enlightened agenda. And Republicans would completely reverse it. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 1:28 a.m.

As the Business page of the U-T regretfully reported today, the Mayor cannot be "bounced." He's in like Flynn, unless he chooses to quit, and I hope that is not Filner's style.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:40 a.m.

monaghan: I doubt that he will resign the office. That's not like Filner. The longer the so-called victims refuse to come out publicly, the more Filner's support will grow. Best, Don Bauder

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Fred Williams July 12, 2013 @ 10 a.m.

Ponzi, that is a good summation.

What I dread, but have already accepted, is that what Briggs has to say is true. While Filner has done good work upsetting the apple cart of the powers that be, he's simultaneously participated in the same old wheeling and dealing that has made San Diego infamous.

That's worthy of resignation, or worse...but the focus should extend to the city council, former mayors and others as well.

When I saw that skulking miscreants like Fred Maas (how I hate that he sullies our shared peaceable name) where attending Filner's fundraisers, I felt the bile rise in my throat. (Thanks for reporting that Matt Potter.)

I've recounted more than enough times my own personal encounters with Filner, and how revolting his behavior can be. I still support his agenda of challenging the oligarchs downtown, and he's done more than I expected.

Now his agressive, myopic, narcistic, and power-perverted behavior is going to sabotage all he's accomplished, and all we hoped for? I hope not.

But it sure would be typical of San Diego to endure just this fate, and see a subservient lackey of the oligarchs take over and doom the city to further failure.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:57 p.m.

Fred: Correct. Faulconer, DeMaio, Dumanis and the other corporate welfare lackeys would be far worse than Filner with all his personal faults. Ditto for Dinos (Democrats in Name Only). Keep watching the ideas, not the personalities. Best, Don Bauder

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KayL July 12, 2013 @ 11:16 p.m.

Until Filner became mayor, I never understood how the Democrats in City Hall are just as horrible and craven as the Republicans. That's why they hate him so much, because Filner shows that they are Dinos, just like you said.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 7:20 a.m.

KayL: Yes, many of the Democrats in City Hall are financially beholden to the downtown Republican corporate welfare boosters. Best, Don Bauder

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vitalinfo July 12, 2013 @ 10:56 a.m.

Mr. Bauder: Thanks for refocus on the BIG & REAL issues in SD.

Ponzi---"The anemic [how about "sell-out"] governance of Dick Murphy and Jerry Sanders has left San Diego starving for leadership." It has no doubt, also left San Diego with city staffers that want for & are loyal to comfortable old ways.

Mayor Filner's impelling force is changing a HUGE problem that San Diegans urged him to at the polls last November.* This change has to be a severely painful adjustment for everyone.

A reminder is in this comment taken from http://sandiegofreepress.org/2013/07/not-quitting-filner-apologizes-says-hell-seek-help/

“. . . Perhaps Filner really does have “a problem” . . . Try watching City TV. The City has never moved so fast. Infrastructure, cleaning bird shit on rocks, sewer jobs getting sped up, bike lanes, balanced budget, a compromise on Plaza de Panama that looks great (and will get better when patios/landscaping/planters added), homeless shelter extensions, bike lanes, mobility projects, transportation corridors…1st democratic mayor & majority council in what? 37 years or something? . . . .but being an [bleep] hasn’t stopped him from moving stuff forward that has been in deadlock my entire life. So yeah, #TeamBob.”

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 1:59 p.m.

vitalinfo: You are right: Filner has moved remarkably quickly on old problems that were never addressed in the past. But voters may not focus on that. They want a sex or abrasive personality scandal. It's something they understand. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard July 12, 2013 @ 12:14 p.m.

When lawyers quote poets, they lack facts. Filner did not approve the Sunroad project, the council overrode his veto, this fact seems to be lost, if there is corruption, and I believe Sunroad corrupt, the focus should be on the council, if the money never paid the City is supposedly corrupt, then we should consider that the money Sunroad poured into City elections, checks that were actually cashed, might help explain why Sunroad believes it can ignore property law, and build in violation. I support Filner, but welcome an investigation.

I voted for Filner as a good guy with a bad temper. He usually makes the right enemies.

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 2:01 p.m.

Psycholizard: If the U.S. Attorney pursues Filner on the Sunroad mess, it would be doing so strictly for political reasons, as you point out. This could wind up being grounds to remove the U.S. Attorney. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard July 12, 2013 @ 7:42 p.m.

Whatever Bob Filner has done, this circus is disgraceful. The idiotic pretense of concern for the victims privacy should fool no one. This story will be known, and I tend to believe accusers in these matters, but those who admit to hiding important facts should spare us their opinions. Let any accusers come forward with facts, and let's respect those accusers. I can't respect those who demand resignation for a secret crime, and the public threat to share secret facts unless demands are met disgraces completely. If these facts concern a crime, they can't be lawfully withheld. And if they don't, what are we talking about?

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 9:06 p.m.

Psycholizard: Agreed. The accusers must come forward with specific examples. Increasingly, I am coming to believe that Filner, always known for his arrogance and abrasiveness, treats both women and men abusively. Possibly he is tougher on women, but I am not sure of that. These are bad qualities, but they do not merit his being driven from office. I am also beginning to believe that the conspirators trying to drive him from office are the usual suspects -- the downtown business establishment -- but this time in league with top-level Democrats. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 1:45 a.m.

Great summation. Truth in all you say. Accusations from third-parties about alleged crimes of the Mayor followed by extortionate demands. We have tumbled down the Rabbit Hole.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:44 a.m.

monaghan: It's not the first time San Diego has gone down that hole. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 12, 2013 @ 9:35 p.m.

MAYOR SAYS HE IS INNOCENT OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT. Mayor Bob Filner this evening (July 12) put out a statement saying that he stands by his Thursday pledge to improve the workplace environment in his office, "I am confident that a fair and independent investigation will support my innocence with respect to any charges of sexual harassment." Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK July 13, 2013 @ 8:18 a.m.

so far his only accomplishment that comes to mind while in the mayors position is the bird poop fiasco.

Maybe some of the destinkifying agent could be spritzed around city hall.

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BlueSouthPark July 13, 2013 @ 10:25 a.m.

MJunk: maybe you don't like the 5-year labor deal Filner made, but he was well-praised for it and it was considered far more important than pleasing the La Jolla business, community, and tourist interests by finding a reasonable way to eliminate a very unpleasant detriment to the community.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:48 a.m.

BlueSouthPark: While he has appeared willing to do some bargaining, generally speaking Filner has stuck to his campaign pledge to deemphasize the downtown corporate welfarists and begin addressing the rundown neighborhoods and the $1 billion infrastructure deficit. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 1:06 p.m.

Murphyjunk: Filner stood up to the hotel barons. That was both substantively and symbolically very important. Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK July 13, 2013 @ 2:03 p.m.

All good stuff, but when Filner will be mentioned in the future, I get a feeling poop will be part of the discussion.

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 2:01 a.m.

If you lived or walked or played or dined near the La Jolla beach, you would not be dismissive of Filner's decisive action to reduce the stench of guano on the rocks of La Jolla Cove. Area councilmember Sherri Lightner dithered and delayed and declared that necessary permits required to do the job could not be obtained for years. It's a classic example of why Bob is the people's Mayor and why so many people support him, even now.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 4:58 p.m.

monaghan: Agreed. Filner moved after others had dithered. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:48 a.m.

Murphyjunk: I think much of this discussion should be labeled poop. Best, Don Bauder

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BlueSouthPark July 13, 2013 @ 10:22 a.m.

Mr. Bauder: Do you think Tom Shepard, the major downtown GOP insider, who is/has been advising Filner, has given good advice?

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 1:07 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: My guess is that Shepard advised Filner to write that mea culpa. That was good advice. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 2:07 a.m.

Shepard is a professional, but it's been wisely suggested that Filner needs some hotshot from out-of-town. Just look at the lineup of "friends" since last Thursday and you can see why there might need to be a new approach.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:50 a.m.

monaghan: An out-of-town PR pro would have to get up to speed on San Diego. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard July 13, 2013 @ 11:35 a.m.

Filner so far has fought off the crooks, jumped on the train, and applied the brakes, the City is still tied to the railroad tracks certainly. He has stopped some expensive fiascos, and made some powerful enemies. The City's train wreck is gravy train to some.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 1:10 p.m.

Psycholizard: Yes, Filner has fought off the downtown bandits. Any of those who are being discussed to replace him, Democrats and Republicans, would not have done that. Best, Don Bauder

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Sdcinerama July 13, 2013 @ 11:36 a.m.

Problem with Filner is that he gives a lie to the third way Democratic Party mode that's been so popular since Bill Clinton. Filner is actually interested in serving the City of San Diego and he fights to do it. I can't stand the Tea Party and their hangers on, but they are aggressive about whatever awful things they want. I'd kill to see the Dems get so energetic about financial reform or health care. And Occupy doesn't count since they stayed so far above the fray they died from from lack of care and feeding (coordinated law enforcement efforts against the groups that hadn't broken any laws didn't help). I'm reminded of what Abraham Lincoln once said about General Grant, "I can't spare this man, he fights." San Diego has precious few leaders that actually fight for something worthwhile.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 1:11 p.m.

Sdcinerama: Yes, Filner has fought. And his enemies are attacking his flank -- fearful of taking him head-on. Best, Don Bauder

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KayL July 13, 2013 @ 2:40 p.m.

I think that's why so many Democrats have been piling on Filner. They don't or won't fight, and they have absolutely no idea how to unite against a common enemy. So they let the Republicans win, as they always do.

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Sdcinerama July 13, 2013 @ 7:27 p.m.

There are too many elected Democrats that subscribe to the leadership technique known as, "go along to get along." Only problem is, these same leaders have gotten stunningly little by going along.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 9:53 p.m.

KayL: Todd Gloria already has signs promoting himdelf for mayor in 2013. Those signs MUST have been created before his so-called fellow Democrats attacked Filner. Todd Gloria is not a Democrat. He is a whore for the downtown corporate welfare crowd. Best, Don Bauder

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KayL July 14, 2013 @ 12:08 a.m.

I just saw that and am disgusted. Todd Gloria is the worst of them all.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 5:01 p.m.

KayL: Agreed. Gloria is the worst of the Democrats using their elbows for self-aggrandizement. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:53 a.m.

KayL: I see it another way. The Democrats blasting Filner -- DINO Todd Gloria already has his signs out -- are fighting among themselves to replace him. Best, Don Bauder

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SurfPuppy619 July 13, 2013 @ 9:21 p.m.

I'd kill to see the Dems get so energetic about financial reform or health care

I'd kill to see Dems get energetic about the poor and middle class, like they used to care, instead of throwing them under the bus for public employees.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 9:54 p.m.

SurfPup: Good point, SurfPup. The poor and middle class (unless some in the middle class work for the City) are not represented. Best, Don Bauder

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SurfPuppy619 July 14, 2013 @ 9:28 a.m.

Don, many people find this hard to believe, but I grew up as a HARD CORE registered Democrat, my entire life, up until about 15 years ago when they started raising regressive taxes through the roof for pubic employees-and they still are. Most people think I am a died in the wool republican. I'm not, never have been and doubtful I ever will be given their extreme positions on certain issues.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:56 a.m.

SurfPup: I emphathize. I used to be a dyed-in-the-wool conservative Republican -- was for most of my life. In 2004 I couldn't take it anymore and registered Democrat. Best, Don Bauder

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SurfPuppy619 July 14, 2013 @ 3:27 p.m.

I am Independent, and plan on keeping it that way- $$$ Rules politics...how doe sit go.......$$ Is the mothers milk in politics??

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 5:03 p.m.

SurfPup: As the words go: follow the money. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 2:11 a.m.

What a great and apt quote. I hope Filner reads it and takes it to heart: we cannot spare this (flawed) man, he fights.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 11:57 a.m.

monaghan: Name me a person who isn't flawed. Best, Don Bauder

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Sjtorres July 13, 2013 @ 5:12 p.m.

It's amazing that Don Bauder thinks that Donna Frye, Cory Briggs, Vince Hall, Toni Atkins, Todd Gloria and Lorena Gonzales are all in cahoots with Papa Doug.

Methinks poor old Don is blinded by his extreme ideology and has become unbalanced.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 9:58 p.m.

Sjtorres: If you read carefully what I have written, you would in no way come to the conclusion that you did. I do not think Frye et al are in cahoots with Papa Doug and have never suggested that.

Having said that, I can say that I do not have the Olympian detachment to judge whether or not I am unbalanced. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery July 14, 2013 @ 1:46 a.m.

Don, it is because you DO have the Olympian detachment to guide us through the stormy straits that we know you are NOT unbalanced. In fact you are the most "balanced" person I know. And never were you more needed than now.

So dear Captain Don, steer on our little bark of public opinion, between our current Scylla and Charybdis, the foaming whirlpool of hypocrisy on one side and the rock of equality of the sexes on the other. I think we will all come out of this the better for it, including Bob.

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 2:14 a.m.

All true and God love the Irish for the way they say it.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:02 p.m.

monaghan: There is a reason that Ireland is known for having many of history's greatest writers. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya July 15, 2013 @ 2:03 p.m.

And I'm told that there's also a reason why God invented whiskey......to ensure that the Irish would never rule the world.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ noon

patflannery: You are too kind -- far too kind. I do hope that everybody comes out the better but I refuse to take any credit for it, if it happens. Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill July 13, 2013 @ 5:45 p.m.

Personally I don't buy into the implication that the harassment scandal is, as HRC would put it, some sort of vast right wing conspiracy. The root cause of the harassment scandal was Bob Filner's actions and/or words. Unless we hear something really unexpected the blame lies solely with Bob Filner.

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 10 p.m.

ImJustABill: The blame may lie with Bob Filner. But how can we reach such a conclusion without hearing specific charges? The accusers must come forward. Otherwise, it is impossible to make a judgment. Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill July 14, 2013 @ 10:13 a.m.

Barring something really, really weird - like the GOP planting someone in the office to flirt with Filner or somehow entrapping him - we know that the blame lies with Filner. We just don't know how bad what exactly he did was. At this point, there's a wide range of possibilities as to what he did.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:05 p.m.

ImJustABill: We know some blame lies with Filner. But is it enough to remove him from office? We also know that much blame lies with those who are smearing him before there is any evidence. We must be sure they get their comeuppance. Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill July 14, 2013 @ 1:44 p.m.

I don't know what happened - it might have been something really minor or it might have been something really serious. Maybe Donna Frye, etc don't even know what happened. One person knows for sure. Mayor Filner knows what happened. If Mayor Filner wants the citizens of San Diego to give him a fair assessment about what happened he needs to tell us specifically what he did.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 5:06 p.m.

ImJustABill: Maybe Filner doesn't know what he did. How could he, since his accusers haven't come out of hiding? Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill July 14, 2013 @ 5:34 p.m.

Yeah - I hadn't thought of that. It's possible that Filner said or did something that wasn't intended to be offensive but was. Something ignorant but not hateful (those 2 things don't always go together). However, the sense I get is that all key players know exactly what the incident was.

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BlueSouthPark July 13, 2013 @ 7:56 p.m.

Sjtorres: Do you expect politicians to have any limits or principles? I call this Lorena Gonzalez being in cahoots with something really ugly:

Lorena at her July 11 2013 open house: https://twitter.com/LorenaSGonzalez/status/355542103922704384/photo/1

https://twitter.com/derrickroach

It's hard to stomach, because that guy is the guy, Derrick Roach, who provided the video for these despicable people: http://www.utsandiego.com/video/play/58171/

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Sjtorres July 13, 2013 @ 8:41 p.m.

BlueSouthPark - I don't follow, sorry.

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SurfPuppy619 July 13, 2013 @ 9:34 p.m.

sjtorres, are you for real, you don't get the connection????? That video is a JOKE, trying to claim Filner is having an AFFIAR b/c a female DROPPED HIM OFF, as he was being STALKED by that guy Derrick Roach, who is in the Lorena Gonzales pic like they're bets buddies????????? If you don't follow you're blind......

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Sjtorres July 13, 2013 @ 9:56 p.m.

Who claimed Filner was having an affair? Was he? I dunno. Apparently he's got enough "women problems" that it's not outside the realm of possibility. And Mr Roach is an experienced, licensed, professional private detective. And is active in the community with Rep. Gonzalez. So, what's your point?

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 10:21 p.m.

Sjtorres: I believe Filner was an unmarried man when the video was taken in 2010. (If I am wrong, correct me on that.) Are you suggesting that single people should not have affairs? C'mon! A man should not have an affair with a female over whom he has job authority, but we have no idea who this woman is. What's more, the video doesn't suggest anything sexual. It is nothing but a cheap shot that a Republican stalker supplied to a pathologically unethical newspaper that was only too happy to use it. Best, Don Bauder

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Burwell July 13, 2013 @ 11:12 p.m.

The woman is supposed to be a lobbyist for an airline. I would suggest to Filner that he try saltpeter if his drive is on overdrive and he can't control himself. A little saltpeter in Filner's diet would make him as meek as a lamb. Brute Krulak swore by Saltpeter and ordered its use in the San Diego Union cafeteria as a productivity enhancer.

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 2:22 a.m.

Thanks, Burwell, for reminding us of the good old days at the Union-Tribune when puritans ruled and retired Marine General Brute Krulak used to monitor behavior -- and copy -- in the newsroom. The U-T's past is looking better all the time.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:13 p.m.

monaghan: Yes, so many old-timers at the U-T talk fondly of the Copley "good old days." Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:11 p.m.

Burwell: Krulak's alleged saltpeter strategy backfired. Male employees charged the company for millions of dollars of impotence treatments from psychiatrists and urologists. Those costs vastly offset any gain in productivity. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 10:10 p.m.

Sjtorres: The point is that Roach is the guy who took the pictures of Filner getting out of the car that a lady was also in. Roach provided the video to the U-T. The pictures showed nothing in the slightest incriminating. Yet the U-T in its typical empty-headedness showed the video as if it were titillating. Best, Don Bauder

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Sjtorres July 13, 2013 @ 10:19 p.m.

Don, I saw those photos on a couple local TV shows. Never watch UTTV - no one does.

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SurfPuppy619 July 14, 2013 @ 9:31 a.m.

Don, I saw those photos on a couple local TV shows. Never watch UTTV - no one does. The point was made that the guy who made the video, a nothing to talk about video, was friends with Lorena Gonzales and the UT and Gonzales (and her brother) are trying to slime Filner- not cool.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 5:10 p.m.

SurfPup: I don't think we can conclude Gonzalez is a great friend of the Republican snoop Roach. Many politicians get their pictures taken with all manner of people. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:21 p.m.

Sjtorres: I have only watched U-T TV when somebody has sent me some footage from it. Incidentally, a publication named NetNewsCheck recently did a puff piece on the U-T. But U-T management would not release any unique visitor data for its U-T TV site. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 13, 2013 @ 10:05 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: I think the significance of this is that we now know what the stalker, Roach, looks like. Yes, he did provide the video to the U-T, and the U-T was dumb and unethical enough to use it, although it showed nothing. Has anybody stalked Roach? Best, Don Bauder

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jethroeG July 13, 2013 @ 10:22 p.m.

I fully agree with you Don...U-T would love nothing more than to have Filner removed..Then back to same old boys club..making insider deals and allowing the money to dictate what our council will do...Come on people where you from? Don't let the media or idiots like Papa Doug make up your minds..Open your eyes do some research..read..educate yourselves..because from what I see there's a lot of you out there that don't have a clue..This city has been plagued with corrupt politicians far to long..and I'm sorry to say things will get worse before they get better..

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:23 p.m.

jethroeG: It certainly looks like things will get worse. If the downtown corporate welfarists get back in power, they will get much worse. Best, Don Bauder

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Ponzi July 14, 2013 @ 12:01 a.m.

The U-T has a full time “investigator” or paparazzi on Filner. This may be an unprecedented abuse in the violation of personal privacy for a local politician. It’s too bad there is not a body that can stick a microscope up the ass of Doug Manchester.
Regardless, the people ignore the Manchester smoke signals and voted in Filner. I hope there can be a public retaliation against Manchester. I have been a subscriber of the L.A. Times for over two years. It’s so refreshing and it puts the Manchester machine to shame. I hope that a movement will arise that migrates to the L.A. Times and takes away the air supply from Manchester. If you want good news delivered daily, get the L.A. Times. Boycott the “U-T San Diego” and strip Manchester of his bullhorn. Tell your parents, your kids, your neighbors to dump the U-T and support independent and critical thinking as opposed to spoon feed propaganda from a racist, homophobe out of touch megalomaniac.

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SurfPuppy619 July 14, 2013 @ 9:32 a.m.

It’s too bad there is not a body that can stick a microscope up the ass of Doug Manchester. That would cause physical and emotional scarring that could never be remedied....

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:26 p.m.

SurfPup: My guess is that some PI has already followed Manchester. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:25 p.m.

Ponzi: And I would add, if you want the truth, read The Reader, both online and in print. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan July 14, 2013 @ 2:42 a.m.

Great to see a pitch for reading the Los Angeles Times, a wonderful paper. Once in a while you might miss the death of your own lawyer, as I did, and that's a bummer, but you just can't imagine how good the coverage and the writing are in the LA Times. Anything important about San Diego can be read online, here in the Reader and in the San Diego Free Press.

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SurfPuppy619 July 14, 2013 @ 9:26 a.m.

I have LOVED the LATIMES since they had their own San Diego bureau, loved it since then and still do.

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:29 p.m.

SurfPup: Will you still love it after the Koch brothers, possibly in league with Manchester, buy the LA Times? Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 14, 2013 @ 12:27 p.m.

monaghan: But just wait until the Koch brothers buy the LA Times. Best, Don Bauder

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Sjtorres July 15, 2013 @ 12:13 p.m.

Don "I love the panty groper" Bauder, do you still stand by your man?

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Don Bauder July 15, 2013 @ 4:15 p.m.

Sjtorres: I stand by the right of everyone to due process. I have also ordered a tee shirt with the name Don "I love the panty groper" Bauder on it. I am told by the manufacturer that's too many words to fit on one tee shirt. Any ideas? Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder July 21, 2013 @ 6:55 a.m.

Duhbya: Some say "sick," not "slick." Best, Don Bauder

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Sjtorres July 16, 2013 @ 8:39 a.m.

Due process is something you get in a court of law. And it's used as an excuse by those without an argument in other contexts.

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Don Bauder July 21, 2013 @ 6:57 a.m.

Sjtorres: Disagree. Due process is at the heart of American jurisprudence. Best, Don Bauder

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