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Facebook and Food Fights in School
By Josh Board | Posted November 13, 2009, 10:37 a.m.
I remember being in 8th grade, and sneaking into a movie theatre with my stepbrother to see Fast Times at Ridgemont High. And it's still one of the best teen movies ever made.
After seeing that, everyone tried ordering pizza to our classrooms the way Sean Penn did in Ray Walstons history class.
It never worked.
And I realized then, that movies have school scenes that aren't realistic.
I remember in Animal House, they had a toga party, which you really don't see a lot of. Belushi also found a window with naked women pillow fighting.
Pluto also started a food fight, after spitting mashed potatoes out of his mouth.
Well, in Chicago, they had a food fight last week. And when it was over, 25 students from ages 11 to 15, were arrested and put in jail. Charges included reckless conduct, which is a misdemeanor.
And, it's not like someone broke their nose when a fast thrown apple hit 'em. There were no injuries.
I loved reading about the on-campus police officer who called for backup. What did he possibly say on that radio?
"Get here immediately! Tater tots flying thru the air. And some of them are hot!"
Listen, I'm all for suspending the students; but did police officers and jail really need to become a part of this?
And, I'm sure a teacher in Georgia is wondering about legalities as well. She was fired for having pictures on her Facebook page that show her drinking wine and beer. The principal also said "She used expletives."
The 24-year-old former teacher is looking at suing, and I agree with her on one point -- she wasn't informed of her rights.
The few teachers I know don't have Facebook accounts. Some just don't care enough. The others say it's not worth the risk of having students see their personal info.
You'd think all teachers would use this logic. But if you had a Facebook page and taught children, why use curse words? You should just go by the logic that some student, that's angry with a grade you gave them, will find a way to get onto your page and will print out photos or things you've said in private. It's just not worth the risk.
If you need an avenue where you tell someone what you had for dinner or what you did on Friday night, well...maybe a different profession is in order for ya.
And, someone needs to ask the principal why he was looking at her Facebook page on school time. If the teacher is going to be held accountable, shouldn't he?
On the subject of Facebook, a 19-year-old kid was in jail for a few weeks, until an unusual alibi came out. He was in Harlem, far from the crime scene, posting a message on his Facebook.
His pregnant girlfriend probably isn't going to be happy that the message is coming out. It said: On the phone with this fat chick. Where my IHOP. [sic]
I doubt the kid was smart enough to pull off an armed robbery and have his Facebook account open, although I saw a story on Forensic Files last year where a guy did log on to his computer at 5 a.m. as he drove an hour, to kill his ex-wife and return home. He knew they'd look at his computer activity. And he still didn't get away with it.
The liberals always feel sorry for these people that are "wrongly convicted" of crimes. But there's always more to the story.
The guy was picked out of a police lineup. And, he was involved in a 2008 robbery.
I'm sure now he'll get $50,000 for his two weeks of jail time.
And he'll be able to afford lots of pancakes, for lots of fat chicks.
magics5, yes i went to PH!
By KarenBP 7:45 p.m., Nov 15, 2009 > Report it
If that pizza was delivered to my school, in Philly, I'm pretty sure there would have been a hole at the very center of it for our principle and, well, again, I'll let you fill in the blank.
Trying to keep it real...
Rino
By arinoman 12:45 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
Must be a bad link :-/
By PistolPete 9:36 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
hmm...class of 83 :)
By magicsfive 7:50 p.m., Nov 15, 2009 > Report it
Intresting Story....
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By barbara789 9:15 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
Great post, arinoman. Okay, also not sure if your intent was to be funny with "fill in the blank" but that was cool (and amusing). ;-)
By Crissyst 12:02 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
As long as these teachers are not breaking any laws, and as far as I can tell posting on myspace isn't against the law, I don't think these teachers should lose their jobs. If they were shown doing drugs, having sex with minors, marching at a KKK rally (I'd fry them of course) then yeah, fire them.
Josh; what did you think about the plea bargain for BALLON BOY dad. 90 days AND he gets to keep his kids? Could imagine if he had been a bla....(fill in the blank. I'm trying not to go there)
And whats wrong with fat chicks???
Rino
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By arinoman 11:21 a.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
Actually, when I was in 11th grade, a classmate and I did successfully order a pizza to my history class. And, at what better high school than the one that Cameron Crowe originally graduated from (not the one he went undercover at to write the book)!
Part of the fun of that movie is trying to figure out the places in the movie, since it was all local. I always suspected that the mall was UTC. Back then, Farrells was there on the edge of the food court and there was a movie theatre across the way. The arcade was there...it just all fit. Today's kid can't figure it out because nothing is there anymore.
I guess I should read the book...maybe I can get better clues.
By psychopharm 12:16 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
I like your points about the teacher and Facebook, but I also agree that she should not have lost her job. Maybe a reprimand and a strong "urging" to delete her FB account. If she wanted to post stuff short and not so personally revealing, she could have used Twitter...but then again, she is 24 and how many 24 year olds DON'T have a Facebook account?
Can you just imagine Pizza Hut sending a pizza to MMHS? :-) I think ol' Vlassis would have shown up with a plate saying "Where's my slice?" Or maybe would have told a joke about it....
By redsoxfan 12:36 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
Well, the mall actually was taken from a popular mall in L.A. I've been to it. Remember, when making a book/movie, you can draw from all kinds of sources. After all...do we really think there was a football player like Forrest Whitaker, who had a younger brother smash a car that some college scout gave him? Probably an entirely fictional scene.
Arin: I'm kind of on the fence about teachers and what their rights are. I agree with what you're saying. But I think anyone that works with young people, should think about all kinds of things. Do they go to a strip club in their off time? Do they go to a concert and smoke a joint? So many things can come back to haunt them, although, if they aren't on school grounds, really...it shouldn't. So, good points.
I didn't hear the results of Balloon dad, but to me, 90 days in jail is fine. I have many friends that are lawyers, and they've taught me over the years (when I complain about light sentences), that when the defendant pleads guilty, they save so much time and money, that they get these sweet deals.
Also, you have to realize...as much as I think those kids are in a horrible situation (two insane parents), most authorities agree...the kids PROBABLY WOULD NOT be better off in foster homes, or in some orphanage. So, unless you're molesting a child, or really physically kicking the crap out of them, you get to keep the kids. Otherwise, there'd be that gray area...a parent that takes his kid to church twice a day, and doesn't let him go to the doctor because "God can heal the boy" (although, bad example, as parents that refuse medication usually do lose their kids if they're warned first).
And, no...I don't think if Henne were black, the sentence would be tougher on him. I could probably give some examples, of famous (or infamous) African-Americans that have gotten light sentences (not just OJ and getting away with murder, I go to that example way too often).
Give me some time, and I'll see what my brain can come up with.
By JoshBoard 2:54 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
As a teacher, I see nothing wrong with having a Facebook account. I have one, but I'm also smart enough not to post anything too stupid on it. Even if you choose to post foul language or pictures of you drinking with friends, that's no reason to lose your job. I doubt there are many out there who don't use the occasional curse word or have a few beers or whatever. It should have no bearing on job performance. Like arinoman said, as long as nothing illegal is going on...
And by the way, my principal has a facebook account too!
By upseedaisee 3:16 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
I find the OJ card overused. He was tried, and found not guilty by a jury of his peers. And if he did get a lighter sentence, his race played absolutely no part; his wealth did. He had a dream team of lawyers.
You want to talk about lack of justice? Enron comes to mind, as well as all those COs who got those crazy 'retirement' packages in the past year when they should have gone to prison. Certainly, the fact that most of those fat cats were white doesn't really matter. Uh huh.
But I digress. I believe Henne's kids should be taken away from him. He contributed to the deliquency of a minor, his own kids. The mom should have gotten 90 days too. I'm sure race played no part in their easy sentences.
Just something to think about.
Rino
By arinoman 4:17 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
OOOOH, Forensic Files.
When i watched TV, years ago, i loved that show.
i forgot about it!
Is it still on??
My sister's a teacher and doesn't do FB, Twitter, MySpace or anything. i think she's smart. And for not having any of the triumvirate of social networking sites in her sight, i think she's very smart.
We ordered pizza at Patrick Henry. And we got it.
By KarenBP 7:14 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
Where I went to school, they allowed 'roach coaches' into the parking lot so we could order food from there. Then, of course, the dudes in the truck got caught selling drugs and, well, that was that. And yes, I made my fair share of purchases from them. But c'mon, sitting through geometry and all that useless stuff needed some, well, mind stimulation.
Rino
By arinoman 8:06 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
yup forensic files is still on :) tru tv, i believe. getting ready to watch it now. karen you went to pat henry too huh? :)
By magicsfive 8:58 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
Jeremy Overstreet did it, magics. The miserable bastard!
And Barbara? Gotta have a space between the Title and the tags ;-D
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By PistolPete 9:35 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
Interesting points but they almost seem too "common sense" to be taken as epiphanies. I mean, I agree (mostly) with what you're saying but at the same time, I found myself nodding and thinking to myself that I shouldn't be surprised that to some people it's not common sense. Anyway.
As for the guy with the pregnant girlfriend, from what I've read and heard, the "fat chick" actually was his pregnant girlfriend and it was a joke between the two of them, as was the IHOP comment. But now that we're all up in his bid'ness, I think he should have to explain to everyone just what the hell that joke really means. I think we deserve at least that, don't we? Or hell, maybe we deserve better....
By Adam92102 10:37 p.m., Nov 13, 2009 > Report it
"...Pluto also started a food fight, after spitting mashed potatoes out of his mouth..."
It's "Bluto" Josh, not Pluto.
Now, send me a T-shirt. :)
By Ponzi 12:20 a.m., Nov 14, 2009 > Report it
Darn it. I seem to get character names wrong (last time was a Flight of the Conchords blog).
Arin...I said from day one, I'd love for the Henne kids to be taken away. If what happened was the first "offense"...no. But, they have a history of doing wacky things involving their kids (see the video of them going into the eye of a tornado or something? not only is that dangerous for the child...but they took the kids out of school to go with them! Oh, and there's the video of the baby, having a beer put in his hand and a cigar shoved in his mouth like he's one of the dogs playing poker).
So Arin...why did Chris Brown, an African-American, get such a light sentence for beating the living tar out of Rhianna, threatening to killer her, and biting her ears and fingers?
I agree, the Enron people and all those big fat cats that scam people out of money...I'd love them to spend their lives in prison.
Also, Jesse Jackson, who made $2o million for a charity benefitting inner city kids, yet only gave $800,000 to the charity and said the rest was "administrative costs", one of which went for a girlfriend and their illegitimate kid.
Politicians...well, our own Cunningham is doing some serious jail time. Just as that African-American politician that stashed money in his freezer. It's all a matter of what they can prove, not color. I do agree with you on one color that seems to help -- GREEN. You have that, you tend to hire great lawyers and not do the time.
Re: teachers. Again, it's all common sense. Of course they should be allowed to have a Facebook page. But why in the world would they NOT assume students would see it? Or get photos and things off it. And if those are brought to class...whose fault is it?
By JoshBoard 12:38 a.m., Nov 14, 2009 > Report it
I don't think what these teachers do, as long as they don't break the law, should be curtailed in anyway at all. Because where do you draw the line? Cops? Teachers? Doctors? The ice creme person? The Mail person? the fire fighther (I love hot sweaty women!)the bagger of our groceries, the dentist, our favorite blogger? I could go on. Many people out there have 'contact' with our kids. So what.
If some teacher wants to pose in her panties and bra on facebook, or myspace, then who the hell cares? You can't impose on their freedom of expression simply because of their profession.
I believe, eventually, the ACLU is going to win some of these silly cases that clog our courts, and make room for some real important cases; like jailing more black folk!
I'd love to see a PENTHOUSE: GRADE SCHOOL TEACHER'S edition. In fact, one of my son's teacher's is hot. I wouldn't mine going to her facebook to see some thong pictures, or better yet? A website dedictated to hot pictures of grade-school teachers. No nudity mind you, just some hot thong-bra action.
Rino
By arinoman 1:14 a.m., Nov 14, 2009 > Report it
I agree with rino (probably the only time I'll ever get to say that) that teachers should be allowed to have a personal life, just like anyone else, although it's funny that the three examples he mentions that should get them fired are two crimes, and KKK membership. Lets think about that. If a teacher can be a member of the KKK, but not let it affect how they do their job or treat kids, should they be fired for it? And if you say yes, then shouldn't any Christian be fired? After all, we've now decided that no teacher can act like a professional and separate their personal beliefs from their professional conduct. They must be indoctrinating our kids.
This is why I say, teachers (and everyone else) should be evaluated based on their behavior and performance on the job ONLY. What they do on their own time should be irrelevent.
By rickeysays 2:50 a.m., Nov 14, 2009 > Report it
Well, in the case of facebook and myspace, this teacher could have set the privacy a little tighter. I have a couple of friends who have their privacy settings so high that you can't find their facebook page and when they comment on someone's page, you can't click on their name and get their page or request them as a friend. When you post pics, you can make them available for anyone to see or just your friends or friends of friends. I don't think that she should be reprimanded other than being told that she have her privacy set superhigh and that her students should not be her friends. Because, I have to say, if my daughter showed me pictures of her teacher when she was in high school on her drinking vacation thru Europe, I would be upset.
Poor judgement on her part.
And, regarding Fast Times...Although there is a certain amount of liberty in writing fiction based on research, the characters were based from Cameron Crowe going undercover at Clairemont High School. I would bet that UTC was the original location where the kids hung out. If you remember the rink area back in the 80's, everything in the movie was there. Down to the striped outfits that the girls wore which ironically is what the waitresses at Farrells used to wear (even though I think they were working in a pizza restaurant in the movie).
By psychopharm 4:57 a.m., Nov 14, 2009 > Report it
arin, the problem with those other professions you mentioned is....they are not TEACHING children, in a classroom. And as pyscho put above...you can have strict settings so the kids can't into it.
Believe me, I thought it was UTC as well...but even Crowe, I believe, has talked about that mall in L.A.
By JoshBoard 11:57 a.m., Nov 14, 2009 > Report it
It doesn't matter if they're teaching our kids or not. If the teacher is a second grader teacher, and students are going to her facebook page, thats the parents problem not hers.
Rino
By arinoman 2:07 p.m., Nov 14, 2009 > Report it
That's a VERY GOOD POINT, arin. My stepbrother is a teacher, and when we debated this years ago, he said that very thing. That if kids are pulling pictures, even if they are nude photos, of the teacher and showing them in class...it is THAT CHILD that's being disruptive, not the teacher.
By JoshBoard 4:31 p.m., Nov 14, 2009 > Report it
Agreed, my man Josh. Facebook, Myspace, are aimed at certain age groups. You just can't go to a myspace page, in some cases, unless that person lets you be their 'friend'. I think it applies to Facebook.
But I look at it more as seperating our private lives from our professional lives. And, if some MILFish teacher wants to parade around in her underwear online, then great for her. She's got spunk and is trying to remain hip. And if she wants other adults, like me, to eye her in her underwear, then where's the harm in that??? And if I tell her I have a ten-inch snake, and well, she wants to meet up..whats wrong with that? Its called being human.
Rino
By arinoman 5:15 p.m., Nov 14, 2009 > Report it
I'm not sure how human it is, to tell someone you have a 10 inch snake, and them then wanting to meet up...hahahahaha.
I'd think a teacher would prefer a more subtle, innuendo filled approach like: Can I help you clean chalk boards after class? or Will you call me when you have no class? or If I'm naughty, will you sit me in a corner?
I dunno...the possibilities are endless. And the time-out in the Charger game is almost up, or I'd give you 25 more. But the snake?? C'mon!
By JoshBoard 4:16 p.m., Nov 15, 2009 > Report it
44 isn't old, silly goose.
By PistolPete 9:25 p.m., Nov 15, 2009 > Report it
I think it's relative, PP (by the way, Pistol Pete Maravich was #44 at one point).
If you ask a 10-year-old if 44 is old...wanna guess how they'll answer that?
By JoshBoard 9:46 a.m., Nov 16, 2009 > Report it