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Can Feds thwart runaway exec pay?
response to 64 " I prefer this: "Do unto others as you believe they would prefer to be treated." " A good thought Don, but never the less, you're still making the assumption of having knowledge of anothers preferences. This might be possible if you know someone intimately. After 15+ yrs, I can say that about my gf; I'm sure you can as well about your wife and sons. But how many others can that be said about? How many others can you say you know well enough to believe you know how they wish to be treated. If you don't know them well enough, then how do you decide the manner in which you treat them. And that is my point. If you don't "know", then where does your decision come from? It comes from that which is most familiar to you, your own beliefs or experiences or whatever term(s) you choose to use. You guess how they want to be treated and sometimes that guess is predicated on how we would want to be treated if we were in their place. Like I said, it's a principle, not an ideal.— November 13, 2009 9:32 p.m.
Can Feds thwart runaway exec pay?
response to # 43 Don, I must admit that I am truly suprised. Given numerous opportunities to respond, I have failed to elicit the response that I thought you, of all posters, would set forth. The golden rule is a principle, it's not an ideal. It doesn't replace regular moral norms. It isn't an infallible guide on which actions are right or wrong and it surely doesn't give all the answers. The best modern interpretation I've come across is this: "Treat others only in ways that you're willing to be treated in the same exact situation. To apply it, you'd imagine yourself in the exact place of the other person on the receiving end of the action. If you act in a given way toward another, and yet are unwilling to be treated that way in the same circumstances, then you violate the rule." But each religion has it's own interpretation. Buddhism :“Treat not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.” Udama-Varga, 5:18 Christianity :“All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them.” Matthew 7:12 Confucianism :“Do not unto others what you would not have them do unto you.” Analects 15:23 Hinduism : “This is the sum of duty: do naught unto others which would cause you pain if done to you.” Mahabharata 5:1517 Islam : “No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.” Sunnah Judaism : “What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow man. That is the law: all the rest is commentary.” Talmud, Shabbat 31a Native American : “Respect for all life is the foundation.” The Great Law of Peace— November 13, 2009 1:29 p.m.
Can Feds thwart runaway exec pay?
post #34: "Yeah, but suppose you like S&M. Should you treat others if they did, too? Best, Don Bauder." Don, it's still the same thing. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" If you like S&M and you want to be treated that way by someone else, so you treat them that way first. You said Socrates and Epictetus "are making the Golden Rule mistake: thrusting one's own predilections on others." If you are treating someone the way you wish to be treated, isn't that the same thing? In effect saying I am doing this to you because I like it, so do the same to me? Isn't that "thrusting one's own predilections on others" Seems that way to me.— November 13, 2009 8:57 a.m.
Can Feds thwart runaway exec pay?
response to 31 "do unto other..... In other words treat others the way you want to be treated. Socrates and Epictetus said the same thing, just using different words to say it.— November 13, 2009 12:02 a.m.
Can Feds thwart runaway exec pay?
I prefer Socrates' interpretation: "Do not do to others that which would anger you if others did it to you." or that of Epictetus: "What you would avoid suffering yourself, seek not to impose on others."— November 12, 2009 6:08 p.m.
Blackwater OK'd $1 Million Hush Payments to Iraqis: Reports
Re #5&6 http://obrag.org/?p=13943 http://www.copswiki.org/w/bin/view/Common/M870— November 12, 2009 2:38 p.m.
Walk Hard, The Omega Man, Toute une Nuit
Probably all that scientology krap from working with tom cruise. that would F@@K anybody up!!!— November 12, 2009 12:27 a.m.
The Anti-Sonic Burger
Pink's is opening a hot dog stand @Knott's Berry Farm in January. BEST hot dogs ever.— November 12, 2009 12:11 a.m.
Walk Hard, The Omega Man, Toute une Nuit
ricky, do you mean Bridget Moynahan??— November 11, 2009 11:57 p.m.
Blackwater OK'd $1 Million Hush Payments to Iraqis: Reports
Wong was on Evergreen's payroll,5k a month as a "consultant" on a deal with the Port of LA. But the money he was doling out was from Kaiser Permanente, about 250K. KP fired him for misappropriating funds. The max he could have gotten was 10yrs; the minimum was 16mths. " the judge apparently eased it down to five years after hearing testimonials from family and friends"— November 11, 2009 11:53 p.m.