Comments by gravedigger

They Carry Guns

On Jul 20, 2009, Ponzi posted: "Nate 'gets off' on doing this." I love how some folks purport an ability to know what is in the mind of another person. Ponzi - "It has nothing to do with preserving rights and if anything will only make the public ask to end 'public carry' as well." "Any nation that thinks more of its ease and comfort than its freedom will soon lose its freedom; and the ironical thing about it is that it will lose its ease and comfort too." - W. Somerset Maugham Ponzi - "A gun is a violent device, a weapon, it's should only be carried by people who are trained and permitted to protect." I'll pass your message along to the hundreds of thousands of criminals who are currently walking the streets - with GUNS. Ponzi - "Just wearing it 'because you can' is immature." Hoplophobia From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Hoplophobia (pronounced /ˌhɒplɵˈfoʊbiə/), from the Greek hoplon, or weapon, is defined as the "fear of firearms" or alternatively, an irrational fear of weapons in general, and describes a specific phobia. Political usage Firearms instructor Colonel Jeff Cooper coined the word in 1962 to describe a "mental disturbance characterized by irrational aversion to weapons". Cooper employed the term as an alternative to slang terms, stating: "We read of 'gun grabbers' and 'anti-gun nuts' but these slang terms do not (explain this behavior)." Cooper attributed this behavior to an irrational fear of firearms and other forms of weaponry. He stated that "the most common manifestation of hoplophobia is the idea that instruments possess a will of their own, apart from that of their user."
— July 20, 2009 7:28 p.m.

They Carry Guns

refriedgringo ... Where do I start with you? It is interesting that when you see that you are losing the argument, you take it to its extreme. --- "And I think that you should be able to purchase bazookas. Missile launchers. Anything that you can afford." - refriedgringo --- Virtually NONE of the open carry participants would endorse this nonsense. The Constitution and other supporting documents CLEARLY define "arms" as the standard issue weapon for an infantryman. In other words, citizens are allowed to carry whatever the ordinary soldier carries. Back in the old days it was a musket or a flintlock. As time progressed, weapons became more advanced, but there is STILL the intent of the amendment, that of allowing citizens to carry what a soldier would carry, STANDARD ISSUE. Now, soldiers DO "USE" bazookas and missile launchers and canons and patriot missiles and more, but those weapons are not STANDARD ISSUE. Soldiers get a handgun, and a rifle, and even THAT is more than we are allowed to carry, since citizens are (currently) forbidden from carrying AUTOMATIC weapons. We carry SEMI-automatic weapons. I am willing to bet that you probably DON'T KNOW or WON'T ADMIT the OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE between AUTOMATIC and SEMI-automatic weapons, because it doesn't meld with your anti-2nd amendment agenda. Then you say --- "I don't believe that an open carry [movement] is going to desensitize the public to the 2nd amendment any more than you would want me to advocate drug use in order to desensitize the public to legalizing drugs." - refriedgringo --- You've never heard about PROHIBITION, have you? When the FIRST new model of a Corvette or some other awesome car rolls down the street, it turns heads, but after there are a few thousand of them running around town, they barely get a second look. Do you REALLY stop to take a second look at a new VW beetle any longer? You're used to seeing them, so they do not invoke a reaction. --- "People can get used to anything. Even hanging." - Unknown (My step-dad used to say this, quoting someone else) --- You are not thinking with your brain. you are operating entirely on emotion.
— July 19, 2009 11:39 p.m.

They Carry Guns

Quoting BigBadWolf 9:19 a.m., Jul 19, 2009 "Nate- Why don't you associate with black people or other people of race?" BBW - Caucasian is a "race" as well. Did you mean to use the word "color?" Caucasians are people of "color." They are the color "white." White contains ALL colors. Colors other than white discriminate by excluding certain colors from their makeup in order to be seen as something OTHER THAN white. Black is the absence of ALL color, yet you believe that they are the MOST representative of "people of "race?/color?" "you are getting away with what you are doing is because you are white and dress like a dork." BBW - The reason he "gets away with" this, is because it is perfectly LEGAL. His "race/color" has nothing to do with it. Your comments on how Nate dresses are laughable, since it is WELL known that many "people of 'race'" dress like they lost a fight with a commercial clothes dryer. "If you took 20 guys from the intercity (people of race), put guns on their hips, and paraded around La Jolla, your little gig would be up in a heart beat." BBW - So you're saying that law enforcement officers would prohibit BLACK people from participating in an LAWFUL open carry event while they allow WHITE people to do this? "I challenge you to gather up 20 black people and give them all guns. Walk from northern La Jolla to southern Pacific Beach." BBW - That would probably be illegal, because it is illegal to open carry within 1,000 feet of a school. I doubt that even YOU could plot a route from northern La Jolla to southern Pacific Beach that would not, at some point, place the open carriers in violation of PC 626.9 (carrying a gun within 1,000 feet of a school.) While you're frothing at the mouth, why not pull out a map and see if you can come up with a route. I'll walk it with you, IF it is absolutely LEGAL, even if you're a "person of 'race'"! BBW - "While you are at it, wear red outfits and exert your first amendment rights and wave signs that read, "F* the Crips." The Constitution allows you to do it. So, do it." The purpose of open carry is NOT to taunt a certain race, religion, or group such as the Crips. It is to exercise one's 2nd Amendment right as a free citizen. Red shirts and stupid signs intended to incite violence are not necessary to accomplish our goal. BBW - "Do something news worthy. By suggesting this, some might consider me racist. I'm not racist!! I'm a realist. If "gang members" start doing this, it won't be tolerated. Just because the Constitution allows you to do something, doesn't mean it is correct. I am a gun owner and proud of it. I just think Nate's need for attention is unwarranted." I believe your willingness to roll over and allow your government to prevent you from exercising your constitutional rights is appalling.
— July 19, 2009 1:20 p.m.

They Carry Guns

Typing "Psychological projection" into Wikipedia returns this: Psychological projection (or projection bias) is when a person's personal attributes, thoughts, and/or emotions are ascribed onto another person or people. A modern view of projections is that they are prerequisites for normal social functioning. A person who is incapable of ascribing his/hers own feelings on other people would have great difficulties in understanding them. This may happen in Aspergers Syndrome. In classical psychology projection is always seen as a defense mechanism which occurs when a person's own unacceptable or threatening feelings are repressed and then attributed to someone else. An example of this behavior might be blaming another for one's own failure. The mind may avoid the discomfort of consciously admitting personal faults by keeping those feelings unconscious, and redirect their libidinal satisfaction by attaching, or "projecting," those same faults onto another. ------------------------------------------ [gravedigger's conclusion] This would account for hoplophobes who don't want OTHER law-abiding citizens to have guns, because if they were honest they'd admit that they don't trust THEMSELVES with guns. ------------------------------------------ Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted unconscious impulses or desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them. The theory was developed by Sigmund Freud and further refined by his daughter Anna Freud; for this reason, it is sometimes referred to as "Freudian Projection"
— July 19, 2009 12:11 a.m.

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