Thank goodness someone bothered to talk to someone other than Mc Cann. The security person should have been a logical choice. Thanks for your usual research. I read Mc Cann's fiction novel on the UT. The title should be How to loose Face and Influence Enemies. Why on God's earth would anyone want to shake hands with someone that just trashed you on T.V. When Mc Cann tried to shake my hand the first time I declined. The second time I felt threatened and got rude verbally. I felt like I was in a Twilight Zone episode, Mc Cann kept pursuing Stewart and saying shake my hand over and over.It was almost like Mc Cann was trying to provoke a confrontation. Someone told me Mc Cann had a history of this kind of behavior.Thanks for finding out part of that history.
wow, i hope that this does not mean that the security firm will be fired because they SPOKE the truth vs. BENT it in favor of mccann.
we need to keep an eye on that situation................
You know, the people who go to all of these board meetings, who study the agenda, who prepare comments, who sit for hours in uncomfortable chairs until they get their two or three minutes to speak, don't deserve the type of vindictiveness displayed by Mr. McCann. At a time when most people are home at the dinner table or relaxing in one way or another, these "antagonists", as some like to call them, are working for change. They really deserve an award for the good service they do on behalf of the community.
Eastlaker: the question i continue to ask myself is this - why, why is the man still in the political arena?
he is talked about at every water cooler in town, and NONE of it is positive. perhaps now is the time for him to sit down and reflect on his actions. not everyone is suited for public office.
one calculated mistake he made was presuming the 'antagonizers' were just a bunch of dummies. anyone who has attended those board meetings or listened to them on line understands one thing - dummies, oh no this group does their research, lots of it - they come prepared with facts and figures to support their position.
in the best interest of the District those named in the RECALL should step down. in the best interest of the District Dr. Brand should give notice. In the best interest of the District a jury of their peers will view the evidence and find QUINONES, RICASA, 'THE GANDARA' and SANDOVAL guilty.
when all of this has been accomplished - then and only then will the taxpaying community be able to begin to build a new foundation.
This clearly demonstrates that McCann is in a state of arrested development. Perhaps he should tone it down before he is simply arrested!
Pancho: not sure what the relationship of ramirez and payne has to do with the 'off the wall' action of mccann that evening; unless mccann is bothered by it some how.
with mccann who knows?
@Pancho I am friends with Mr. Payne as well. I also shared one of John McCann poorly thought out actions with Mr. Payne, Am I to imply that you are insinuating that I am a liar as well?
Perhaps you might want to consider your words in the future before you press "Post." This article wasn't about Mr. Ramirez, it was about John McCann's actions last Monday night. Simply because you don't like Ramirez doesn't make Mr. Payne or myself liars.
as i sit i here i find myself asking the question 'WHAT POLITICIAN IN THEIR RIGHT MIND CONTINUES TO ACT IN A MANNER THAT IS LESS THAN RATIONAL'? and i answer myself john mccann.
let us review the history as documented by various entities:
1- allegedly he attempts to run over a well respected political figure of chula vista.
2- in front of an entire board audience, he stands up turns off bertha lopez's mic, stomps off of the stage, when she continues speaking without a mic he stomps back on stage and turns off all mics then proceeds to stomp off stage in a melt down state.
3- at southwest high school he totally looses it and spouts off about 'you people' - there is utube documentation of the incident.
4- when advised, by a young much loved (by his students) educator that he (mccann) needed to stop USING his military service for personal and political gain - he accuses the young man of being un American.
5- the night the board was to vote on whether the taxpayers would pay for arlie ricasa, pearl quinones, 'the gandara's', or sandoval's legal expenses due to their indictment, john mccann - who took exception to some of the communities remarks pulls out a camera and begins videotaping them - intent to intimidate? who knows, but when have you EVER heard of a board member of anything acting in such a manner.
and now this, does mccann have no friends? people who care about him? persons who are close enough to say 'hey bud you are coming off looking like a total nut'!
and what of the Republican Party, surely there is an advisor who can give him the 411, "look we want to win these up coming elections johnny boy, we need to win these elections, and you are doing about as much harm to the party as that iceberg did to the titanic".
Visduh: all Americans truly THANK all servicemen/women for their service. but let me ask you Visduh how many do you know take each and every opportunity to bring it up? his facebook page was showing him in full military gear, standing in front of a jeep - may still be up there only an opportunist would USE THEIR SERVICE. there was a COMMANDER at the hilltop high school board meeting that really took him to task - oh what a moment it was. this was one person that mccann could not call un American for calling him out.
what other politician do you know of who has a spot on UTUBE referring to 'those people' acting in a most bizarre manner? what other politician do you know of who 'had a moment' while he served the city? then of course there is the still much talked about melt down where he turned over board member lopez's mic, and when she continued to talk stomped back up on stage and turned them all off. - yes folks 'it was a twilight zone moment'. you had to be there and see it to believe it. oh my,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, does it not concern you that none of his peers on the board have taken him aside and offered him a 'card' - you know with the name and number of a professional that might be able to help him with his self esteem/emotional outburst issues. but hey look at if from their perspective, this guy is a one man minstrel show all by himself, taking all of the focus OFF OF THEM. dr. brand i am sure is working the guy, "yep johnny boy, i know, i know, they are so very mean to you - its ok - i will make it better - you make me superintendent and i will make them go far far away",
we have a real crisis down here in the south bay, a real crisis.
It is sad and rather disgraceful when someone who is a veteran or claims to be a veteran wants to turn military service into an excuse for all kinds of bizarre behavior. McCann is out of control. Calling the cops after he's gone out of his way to provoke a confrontation with his opponents? This is something out of the wild west of yore with a modern twist. Where did this guy come from? I thank him for his military service in this past decade of war on Islamist terrorists and others, but now it is time for him to cool it, settle down, and stop trying to profit from his service.
Oskidoll: "McCann seems quite angry, acting as if someone is taking something away from him". that would be a YES, the taxpaying community of the south bay, want to take him away from, out of politics. they have about had it with his "i, i, i, i," nonsense. to hear him talk, (and that is all he does is talk, ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS A CAMERA OR A REPORTER AROUND) he claims to be the savior of the district, yet no one on the board, at city hall, or in the community seems to agree.
when the RECALL succeeds it will, most definitely end his political career.
he recently received campaign donation monies from paul bunton's, aka bca, company to help him pay off his campaign debt, yes, that is the same bunton who just plead guilty regarding the pay to play case. hmmmm, why would bunton do that? perhaps someone should ask mccann to explain that.
thanks for the shared info.
could the fiasco described in this article be a ploy, an intent to silence the antagonists???????????????? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
One has to wonder what McCann actually DOES for a living to support Mrs. MC and the four little ones. The stipend board members receive has a legal maximum and is minimal. Even with the benefits package (most board members of public agencies receive the same package afforded employees) it must be difficult to make ends meet in the McCann household. He may also be eligible for some pay as a member of the reserves?
That is probably why John is reported to want the CV mayors job, because it pays pretty well I think-- maybe around $100K, plus benefits, of course. Certainly an improvement over the SUHSD board stipend, whatever it is.
Any day now, all California public agencies must report to the public how much each and every person on their payroll earns, including all pension contributions made by the agency, and benefits. His name should show up on the SUHSD list along with the other board members.
Sometimes the board members take 'cash in lieu' of the benefits if they are already covered, but I believe that data must also be included in these new required reports.
(One must also wonder about Cartmill's source(s) of income from other sources. We know that Ricassa has --albeit is now on admin. leave-- a full-time well-paying job at Southwestern. She may be taking 'cash in lieu from Sweetwater as well. )
I believe the reporting form 700 must list sources of income -- except public agency employment -- as well as the 'gifts'.
McCann seems quite angry, acting as if someone is taking something away from him. He seems not to understand that elected public officials do not 'own' their positions; rather they serve at the public's will. The recall process is in place precisely as a mechanism for the public to remove elected officials who do not measure up.
ChulaVistaIssues: I believe your assessment is correct about three of these: no limits to campaign donations, no term limits and no districts. It is my understanding that the FPPC limits gifts to $420 from a single source in one year.
I have heard a number of people share your concerns on many of these issues.
I know you know this Ms. Luzzaro, but I want to share this with your readers and your post just provided the opportunity.
Campaign donations to candidates have very few limitations on them, and are not legally considered to be gifts. For Sweetwater to limit the campaign contributions, they must pass a Board By-Law. Same for term limits, open seating of Board seats, and some other items the "disgruntled ex-employees" support.
Gifts can be anything of value that benefits anyone who is in a job description or position that requires them to file a Form 700. At Sweetwater, some of the people required to file a Form 700 are the Board members, senior Admin and so forth. Many of the Form 700 violations are felonies, so that is why the DA's office is taking this so seriously.
Many things can fall into the gift category, not just things like dinners, theater tickets, trips, and so on. Many venders have creative minds when it comes to seeing to it that prospective "clients" get these gifts and go to great lengths to hide them from the public. At Southwestern, two people bought cheap seats to the Padres game, and just happened to run into a contractor who had rented a skybox. The contractor invites them up for food and drinks and to watch the game with him. The two people write it off like it was no big thing, they were already at the game. However, the difference in the price of their cheap seat tickets and the skybox price, and the cost of their lavish food and drinks is considered a gift and needs to be on their Form 700. Unfortunately for the two people, the contractor had spoken of the "prearranged meeting" in an email. Busted!!!
The SD County District Attorney's Office is investigating both Sweetwater and Southwestern for just this sort of "pay to play" behavior by some members of both school's Boards and top administrators.
Stay tuned, the Court date is approaching. Get there early to get a good seat.
Nice article Ms. Luzzaro. Well done!
you are correct ChulaVistaIssues - the campaign donations, i believe they are at the foundation of MUCH OF WHAT IS WRONG WITH SWEETWATER. a community member submitted the paper work in an effort to limit the amounts board members may receive from contractors and vendors. the board DID NOTHING, they sat there, not even taking a breath - the agenda item died due to lack of discussion. if that does not about wrap it up, well i do not know what does.
for those like you who are new to the sweetwater pay to play issue i would HIGHLY recommend that you go to the san diego registrar of voters and click on campaign donations - there is the proof of what i say. john mccann, in the later 3 months of 2011 accepted a donation from one of bca aka paul bunton's employees. and i will ask again why? why would bunton donate money to a board members campaign the year after mccann won the seat?
it is imperative that persons like you pass the message along, the message that defines what is going on at sweetwater, the RECALL campaign is building strength each and every day, with its success we will be able to bring about real change which will include a new board and a new superintendent.
OT: As a parent who normally doesn't follow school politics, I have started to pay closer attention due to the recent events. My main concern is that the political system as a whole needs reform. Could someone let me know if this is correct?
There are no campaign donation limits;
There are no term limits;
Gifts are only regulated in the sense that they must be reported;
There are no districts and you need to run at-large for every seat.
These are my main concerns and if someone could let me know if the above is wrong I would appreciate it.
yes, SydneyJean, it is indeed a shame that mccann decided to act out in such a manner.
what has not been discussed is this:
mccann pointed out several members of the community (those that just happen to be some of the 5 that went to the fbi and district attorney) as being the RECALL group - not true - while the others do support the RECALL they are not the founders of this much needed movement.
the RECALL is supported by the community and i believe that is why mccann is acting out so - as when he is RECALLED it will have a devastating effect on his ability to successfully run for another political office.
surely the photographer would have snapped those clenched fists, IF, it ever happened, but alas we all know it did not.
what this appears to be is a devious plot to try and ban certain members of 'the antagonists' group - mccann crying victim. as dr. phil says the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior - well mccann's past documented (video and audio) melt downs ARE ON TAPE. how many more will we have to witness????????
again i ask, "what was mccann doing out there in the parking lot, after the meeting anyway? he had already given his speech as he stood along side dr. brand earlier in the day TO THE SAME REPORTER, and yes, the first one was on camera too." that is a question he seems to be failing to answer - so was this a set up? was there a pre planned plot? was mccann overheard saying "where is the reporter and camera man" after the meeting?
in closing i will ask one other question "why is it that only ONE member of the RECALL is consistently acting unprofessional"?, i guess the water cooler comments around the city are accurate, "he is scared as hell that once he is RECALLED that he will be forced to just go away"? (not that they are not hoping that will happen anyway).
time for mccann to grow up - as the GOOD BOOK says (paraphrase) 'When I was a child I walked like a child and talked like a child, but when I became a man I put aside my childish ways". it is time Mr. McCann for you to do just that.
Wait a minute!! Didn't we hear at last years graduations that McCann is a Iraq/Afghan War Veteran??? Doesn't the government train the military to defend themselves? Now he is scared of Stewart Payne in a parking lot with security hired to protect him with our tax dollar?
COMBAT TRAINING COURSE ONE
1. Force yourself into someone's personal space, and continue to back them up
When they tell you they will not shake your hand.
2. Cry "wolf" that a mean guy (Payne) had a difference of opinion.
3. Lie about the incident and become the victim.
To all the military folks out there, this guy is not one of you.
Wonder what this years commencement speech from him will be??? I have a good idea...just have someone there to serve him recall papers, we won't have to listen, he'll be doing his rendition of "feet don't fail me now".
Yes they did Joe. The police even interviewed the two security guards, who told a completely different version of events. The security guards version supports ours, and hence, Mr. Payne's version of events.
John McCann deliberately tried to provoke his perceived enemies. He only forced his "handshake" on me, Fran Brinkman, Stewart Payne, and Maty Adato. He was forcing his "handshake" on us after he had personally insulted each of us, individually and by name, in his interview with KUSI. This was a "set up" confrontation by John McCann.
The police even told McCann that the security guards did not support his claim. So, John McCann did what John McCann does, call a news paper and fabricate a story.
So you now have to decide which of the the two news source have it right. The Reader, written by Susan Luzzaro, who was witness to the event, or the U-T article written by someone who was told of the incident by John McCann.
I read in the U-T that John McCann was going to explore the possibility of getting a restraining order against Stewart Payne. Go for it John. Just don't get lost in the woods when you go exploring.
Just remember this John, the two women you were intimidating in the parking lot have told me they felt threatened by you. It's just not a good idea to harass women, especially in front of a camera.
Look at the face of Ms. Adato. Does that not look like a woman in distress? What did you do to her to make her cry like that?
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