As spokesperson for the “Whipping the Dead Horse Society,” I must continue explaining the correct solution to the “Lots of Luck” brainstorm puzzle. To me it looks like “Frankenhorse” is alive.
To quote the Aug. 16 comment #5 from one of the puzzle helpers: “Puzzle Master says that the 41st move put the black car in to a position to be extracted from the lot.” We all agree that 41 moves will put the black car into position to leave the lot, but it is still in the lot.
The instructions say: “How many moves will be required to extricate the car AND drive it from the lot?” I think this means no longer on the lot.
“And” is a conjunction, which means both parts must be true!
1) Extricate the car (takes 41 moves).
2) Drive the car off the lot (1 more move).
Please tell me why I am wrong. Not just, because the Puzzle Master says so. Could the solutions be part of the SD Reader dogma that is an authoritative belief not to be disputed, doubted, or diverged from?
Try using valid arguments or better yet try some logical reasoning. Inductive or deductive reasoning would be nice. Maybe even some modus tollens or some modus ponens.
New topic.
Lately my messages have been miss typed, cut short, etc. I have kept them under 11 words. Is this a penalty for questioning the Puzzle Master?
Also, did the Puzzle Master make up the name S Rice from Allied Gardens? Was he used so the reader could use his message to tell me” it's time to get over the brainstorm puzzle?” Aug 12 he had 6 correct solutions even though he was never a contender in the previous 5 puzzles. That is quite a coincidence.
I would like you to prove me wrong, not just tell me I am wrong.
I am so sorry, I did not realize there was a time limit for getting something right. All you need to do is print a valid solution and my last comment will be an apology.
We all agree that the 40th move frees the black car. It must then move 2 more car lengths to drive it from the lot. That is the part that changes this puzzle from incredibly easy to very difficult. That is also the part that the puzzle “master” cannot or will not understand.
I challenge you to print a valid 41-move solution conforming to the conditions of the puzzle. You have not yet done so because it cannot be done without changes the puzzles restraints. If you can print one I will stop asking you to think harder and I will apologize.
Don’t quit; let us get to the truth. Let us get it right!!!!
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msrewa Sept. 29, 2010 @ 1:06 p.m.
Dear Puzzle Lady, Puzzle Master, et. al.,
As spokesperson for the “Whipping the Dead Horse Society,” I must continue explaining the correct solution to the “Lots of Luck” brainstorm puzzle. To me it looks like “Frankenhorse” is alive. To quote the Aug. 16 comment #5 from one of the puzzle helpers: “Puzzle Master says that the 41st move put the black car in to a position to be extracted from the lot.” We all agree that 41 moves will put the black car into position to leave the lot, but it is still in the lot. The instructions say: “How many moves will be required to extricate the car AND drive it from the lot?” I think this means no longer on the lot. “And” is a conjunction, which means both parts must be true! 1) Extricate the car (takes 41 moves). 2) Drive the car off the lot (1 more move).
Please tell me why I am wrong. Not just, because the Puzzle Master says so. Could the solutions be part of the SD Reader dogma that is an authoritative belief not to be disputed, doubted, or diverged from? Try using valid arguments or better yet try some logical reasoning. Inductive or deductive reasoning would be nice. Maybe even some modus tollens or some modus ponens.
New topic. Lately my messages have been miss typed, cut short, etc. I have kept them under 11 words. Is this a penalty for questioning the Puzzle Master?
Also, did the Puzzle Master make up the name S Rice from Allied Gardens? Was he used so the reader could use his message to tell me” it's time to get over the brainstorm puzzle?” Aug 12 he had 6 correct solutions even though he was never a contender in the previous 5 puzzles. That is quite a coincidence.
I would like you to prove me wrong, not just tell me I am wrong.
angelp Oct. 1, 2010 @ 11:06 a.m.
The answer for "Lots of Luck" is 41... There's it. This puzzle is no longer up for discussion.
No, we did not make up a person telling you to "get over the brainstorm puzzle."
We have had a glitch on several people's quotes... We should have it fixed by next week's paper.
Thank you The puzzle helper
msrewa Oct. 2, 2010 @ 4:09 p.m.
I am so sorry, I did not realize there was a time limit for getting something right. All you need to do is print a valid solution and my last comment will be an apology.
We all agree that the 40th move frees the black car. It must then move 2 more car lengths to drive it from the lot. That is the part that changes this puzzle from incredibly easy to very difficult. That is also the part that the puzzle “master” cannot or will not understand.
I challenge you to print a valid 41-move solution conforming to the conditions of the puzzle. You have not yet done so because it cannot be done without changes the puzzles restraints. If you can print one I will stop asking you to think harder and I will apologize.
Don’t quit; let us get to the truth. Let us get it right!!!!
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