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During a city revenues update to the Budget and Finance Committee on Wednesday morning, chair Anthony Young asked for a date when committee members could view the City's revenue receipts for fiscal year 2010 to better predict the upcoming year's revenues.

Chief Operating Officer Jay Goldstone approached the microphone: "Some of the revenues we probably can. There are some revenues where we are charging from one department to the other because of the conversion to the OneSD program and the new payroll system...we're still closing the books on some of those charges."

The OneSD program that Goldstone referred to is the City's new software system that connects departments and allows employees to view other departments' budgets and vendor contracts with a click of the mouse. The OneSD program cost the city more than $37 million and thousands more in employee staff time to implement. Judging by Goldstone's comments, the implementation is not complete.

"Will the year-end 2010 [financial] report be in by December 1?" asked independent budget analyst Andrea Tevlin.

After a brief pause, city comptroller Ken Whitfield took Goldstone's place at the microphone.

"It's really an all hands on deck situation," said Whitfield. "Payroll to the employees is fine, but the behind the scenes and what gets charged to what are some of the interface issues that are being resolved. That's the situation. It really is a one-time situation with the way that OneSD software system interfaces.... Unfortunately, it's part of the growing pains of new-system implementation," said Whitfield.

Councilmember Young asked Whitfield if his department expected further delays implementing the OneSD system.

"No, I think it's typical. I think it takes about a year to work through implementation and glitches."

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nostalgic Oct. 2, 2010 @ 4:34 p.m.

So, how does the city of San Diego know how much money it has spent, and how much it has on hand (you know, to write checks)? Where are all these numbers they are giving us, like for Prop D coming from?

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Founder Oct. 2, 2010 @ 6:42 p.m.

The One$D $ystem, I FEAR, is just more "Monkey Business" designed to delay as long as possible the City going Bankrupt!

Our City Council and our $TRONG Mayor should "KNOW" what our City Budget "is", what our Debt Service "is" and if they don't, then they are NOT doing their job (that we are paying them HUGE bucks for)....

We need FISCAL answers not more "excuses" as to why we are going "Bankrupt" under our current Leadership!

Question: Who knows if we are getting deeper into debt and if they're is such a person, let them come forward and tell the voters of SD, the SIZE of our FISCAL HOLE, because nobody is doing that right now!

I hope Andrea Tevlin (IBA) demands an answer ASAP because if she does not, then she and her "IBA Team" become suspect!

p.s. Great $tory Dorian, I bet DB is jealous!

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 2, 2010 @ 7:13 p.m.

The One$D $ystem, I FEAR, is just more "Monkey Business" designed to delay as long as possible the City going Bankrupt!

We should have filed 4 years ago-then the tobacco settlement money would not have gone down the pensioon black hole............ COMPLETE WASTE OF $100 MILLION, AND HERE WE ARE 2 YEARS LATER WITH PROP D!!! Seeking hundreds of millions more-and in 2 years they will want to pass an even higher sales tax....

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 2, 2010 @ 7:14 p.m.

Where are all these numbers they are giving us, like for Prop D coming from?

Out of KFC Sanders butt.............they are all bogus.

Coming from the mayor whose election platform was not to raise the sales tax.....

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Founder Oct. 3, 2010 @ 9:30 a.m.

Reply #4 If that is true, then that explains why something "stinks" in SD's fiscal situation!

Perhaps you would know, or whom to ask:

How is a recall election for City Leaders "started"?

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Founder Oct. 3, 2010 @ 9:45 a.m.

"Councilmember Young asked Whitfield if his department expected further delays implementing the OneSD system.

"No, I think it's typical. I think it takes about a year to work through implementation and glitches."

Councilmember Young missed his chance to "shine" by not then asking Whitfield for his best "Guess" estimates of the size of our fiscal problems!

These folks should be able to give us close numbers and because they are NOT doing so, that makes me think our fiscal problems are several factors of ten, greater than even we Bloggers predict!

I expect to see the Council and Mayor use the soon to be famous EXCU$E: "We never knew the size of the problem because of these delays"; so it's not our fault...

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Founder Oct. 3, 2010 @ 4:15 p.m.

Reply #7 Speaking of your recall process, CC: How long does it take you to remember your "given" name and then type it? + Do you also think our City should declare Bankruptcy now or sell everything off then declare Bankruptcy? Perhaps your friends in the know, will share their perceptions with you so you can enlighten us, more!

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Fred Williams Oct. 4, 2010 @ 4:38 a.m.

Dorian, the implementation of this project stinks like month-old fish.

Ask for the requirements specification and work breakdown structure (task list) for implementation. Ask for both planned and actual resource expenditures.

Those should be public records. They should give a lot of insight into how this project is really coming along. It's been plagued with trouble for years.

...and I predict you'll hear a lot of "we're 90% done" answers when you start asking pointed questions. In the IT world, we all know that 90% done means hopelessly flawed and never to be finished...

Best,

Fred

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Founder Oct. 4, 2010 @ 8:23 a.m.

Reply #9

Fred- Great comments and SUPER suggestions for finding out more about San Diego's IT delay problems and quite possibly, the Political reason(s) behind the "implementation of this project" delays.

Their are enough savvy IT folks in San Diego who can review the info you suggested and give US their "professional" opinion as to just how great the One$D system is and or if it really just a "$MOKE $CREEN" to delay fiscal responsibility until after the election...

I bet the the Mayor's office has complete control over when ONE$D is "finished" and all those working on IT all want to keep their jobs...

I'd like to see some IT folks post some specific questions that Dorian Hargrove needs to ask in order for them to assess the implementation process to date and or discover if something is $TRANGE about IT in SD.

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Dorian Hargrove Oct. 4, 2010 @ 8:59 a.m.

Fred, thanks for the questions. I will file the request in the following days--probably be shooting you an email before then.

And Founder, thanks for your comments, as always!

Dorian

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Founder Oct. 4, 2010 @ 9:05 a.m.

Reply #11 Thanks also to you for Helping US, Dorian

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 4, 2010 @ 2:15 p.m.

Do you also think our City should declare Bankruptcy now or sell everything off then declare Bankruptcy?

In chapter 9 BK-muni BK, there is no asset sell off, it is not an asset/liability BK, but a cash flow BK.

If you do not have the cash flow then you get the protection of the court and have debts adjusted/dismissed.

No matter how many golf course, parks, buildings or any other real or personal propeties the muni owns..........

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Founder Oct. 4, 2010 @ 6:25 p.m.

Reply #13 I was referring to the "selling of" everything off as in "Managed Competition", (the "New York'n" of San Diego) in my comment to CC, the guy that refuses to list his "given" name while posting others...

As always thanks SP, for your expertise on these and most other issues!

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 5, 2010 @ 8:33 a.m.

Got it...I thought you meant selling off like as in Balboa Park or Torrey Pines Golf Course........

Yes, managed competition may not work either given the nepotism and cronyism that runs rampant and unchecked throughout gov.......

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Founder Oct. 5, 2010 @ 9:30 a.m.

Reply #15 RE: "managed competition may not work either"...

Given the quality of our Leadership and their track record, I'd suggest that your use of the word "MAY" is really hopeful if not wishful!

I see Managed Competition as the last big City sell out before BK and those sell offs will forever change not only the way our City operates but also the Quality of Life here in San Diego... + I went to one of the CRRECC Budget meetings and the amount of money that Managed Competition will generate will be a drop in the bucket compared with making Pension cuts but our current Leadership will sell the voters shirts off their backs before any of them step forward and say, "$top with the penny ante stuff and lets talk about fixing our Fiscal Problems...

Greed is now running our City!

Soon we'll see a slight addition to our City Motto: WA$ America's Finest City

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