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If you were in North Park in 2002, you might have gone to the University Avenue Mobility Plan meeting to find out how the city planners, their consultants, and some community members thought University Avenue between Florida Street and I-805 could be "reconfigured" to make it more walkable.

The plan presented for comment was to re-stripe University Avenue so that there would be a single lane in each direction for cars and one for buses. To make that work, all parking spaces eliminated from University Avenue would be located to "side streets," and some traffic lights and bus stops would be relocated.

Many people who attended the meeting applauded the plan; others had grave concerns. Neither side’s opinion mattered because the plan went nowhere...until now.

The University Avenue Mobility Plan will be presented again at a meeting on March 24 from 6 to 8 p.m. at the North Park Rec. Center (4044 Idaho Street). The first 30 minutes of the meeting will pertain to this issue.

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Founder March 19, 2010 @ 12:11 p.m.

I would like to encourage everyone to help increase attendance, particularly by:

1.  All the Spanish speaking residents in North Park.

2.  All the folks that live in the impacted corridor; between
          Upas St. & Polk Ave. and Florida St. to I-805.

3.  All the folks that commute through "our" area, especially during "Rush Hour".

Because time is short, Flyers, Hand Bills, Newspaper Notices, Radio and TV "spots" would all help get the word out!

*UAMP: http://www.sandiego.gov/planning/programs/transportation/mobility/uamp/index.shtml

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SDaniels March 19, 2010 @ 2:29 p.m.

It sounds exciting, but is this inclusive of sidewalks being widened, and that comprises the totality of improvements for pedestrians?

It's hard to see exactly how pedestrians benefit (I can't open the zipped files with this computer, so am likely missing something)...

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sugarrock March 19, 2010 @ 4:22 p.m.

I must be missing something. If university avenue had only one lane in each direction for cars nobody would ever get anywhere. there would be total gridlock. Please tell me you are joking. Is this some kind of april fools joke? Can you imagine what it would be like to exit the 805 at university at rush hour? Like its not messed up enough.

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Founder March 19, 2010 @ 5:25 p.m.

Sugarrock NOPE, There is NO APRIL FOOLING HERE, THIS IS THE "PLANNED" TRUTH!

I'm glad you "get" the picture of rush hour with cars confined to one lane in each direction! I'm VERY concerned that frustrated drivers will divert into the neighborhoods streets in an effort to avoid the University Ave. East -West backup.

Using a flowing river as model, when you dam or restrict flow in one part, the river keeps backing up until it overflows it's banks (or it's dam) and then it seeks a new path downstream... The geological term is called a meandering stream and it is easily identified by many old river paths that may be now abandoned but come the next flood, may be become part of the rivers "new" path yet again...

Please attend the meeting and or get additional information on this plan from the CD3 Council office (619) 236-6633. Most important, tell your friends & Neighbors!

BTW: If you want to see this type of "traffic calming" that is actually built, but in a much less congested area, try driving through Bird Rock (N. of PB) or give Main St. in Downtown La Mesa A VERY SLOW CRUISE; and let us all know what you think before it is too late for everyone here in "OUR" North Park!

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querobuscar March 20, 2010 @ 7:04 a.m.

Hello FOUNDER. I live in La Jolla and drive the La Jolla Blvd portion thru Bird Rock you mention above almost every day. The traffic circles that were installed are a great improvement over the 5 or 6 stop signs they replaced. The traffic does appear to move more slowly, but constantly without stops, which ultimately saves time. I think is also saves wear and tear on the brakes and reduces gas consumption. The problems usually occur because tourists (or others not familiar with traffic circles) sometimes stop before entering the circles. My only complaint is the city planted too much landscaping bushes/trees in the new center median. One has to be very careful to watch for pedestrians that might suddenly jump out from the bushes trying to cross the street.

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Founder March 20, 2010 @ 8:05 a.m.

querobuscar You bring up a good point; I'd also like you to comment on the truck traffic that tries to navigate those traffic circles; that is one of the reasons that the "roundabout" was removed at Texas Street (that, and the cost to install) in North Park's Mobility Plan.

Also, comparing the volume of traffic that travels on La Jolla Blvd. and University Ave during Rush Hour is another MONSTER reason that the folks that even know about this Plan are worried about the diversion of University Ave. traffic into the neighborhoods... Once drivers learn "shortcuts" they will continue to use them, even when it is not rush hour...

Bottom line, unless the "final" plan includes protection against traffic infiltration for the Residents streets, this Plan may make University Avenue more walkable but it will also make the surrounding Neighborhoods LESS livable...

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Founder March 25, 2010 @ 11:04 a.m.

Here is the latest from the Scoping Meeting, which was held (03/24/10) last night. It was attended by about only 30 people, and only a small number of those made recorded comments. Written comments were collected to be made part of the public record and you can add your comments using the form listed below:

The most project current link is:

http://www.sandiego.gov/planning/programs/transportation/mobility/uamp/index.shtml

You can email your comments to: dsdeas@sandiego.gov and include Project Name UAMP # 115295 on subject line!

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