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An out-of-control aerial drone made by San Diego’s own General Atomics had to be shot out of the sky by the United States Air Force over northern Afghanistan on September 13. According to various industry reports, the MQ-9 Reaper, which is purchased in sets of four with a guidance system for $53 million, lost contact with its ground-based controllers in the United States and headed off on a course that would have taken it into neighboring Tajikistan or China. It was ordered destroyed by an F-15E Strike Eagle. “We do not speculate on the cause of an aircraft mishap,” Captain Frank Hartnett, a spokesman for the Air Force, said. He added that this was the first Reaper of its particular model to go out of control. Reliability issues have shadowed the General Atomics drone program from its beginning. … San Diego city auditor Eduardo Luna is staging a conference here this Friday cosponsored by the International Law Enforcement Auditors Association to discuss abuse of anabolic steroids by police officers. According to the program, “Anabolic steroid abuse among law enforcement professionals is a rapidly growing problem. This presentation will discuss the challenges this issue presents to law enforcement regarding the job/personal related effects, as well as the legal and civil ramifications.”

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rickeysays Sept. 30, 2009 @ 4:24 p.m.

Fred will be in attendance at this one I bet!

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Fred Williams Oct. 2, 2009 @ 1:55 a.m.

Good to hear someone in San Diego is finally paying attention to the issue of law enforcement under the influence of steroids.

If there were a random unannounced test of current SDPD officers, I bet at least 10% would show up positive.

People wonder why cases of police violence are spiralling out of control...well, here's one of the reasons. They're hyped up on 'roids and are completely unable to control their tempers.

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David Dodd Oct. 2, 2009 @ 2:02 a.m.

Fred, what a surprise to see you in this thread, my friend ;)

You going to the conference?

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 2, 2009 @ 10:44 a.m.

People wonder why cases of police violence are spiralling out of control...well, here's one of the reasons. They're hyped up on 'roids and are completely unable to control their tempers.

By Fred_Williams

Well, I think it has much more to do with hiring the wrong people.

As in all gov hiring, the more the job pays, the less likely a person will be hired on the merits. In fact it goes something like this in PD hiring;

1- Family (Hi Jim Duffy),

2- Friends,

3- Military workfare and

4- Civil rights lawsuit consent decree hires for engaging in 1 & 2 above.

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 2, 2009 @ 10:50 a.m.

“Anabolic steroid abuse among law enforcement professionals is a rapidly growing problem. This presentation will discuss the challenges this issue presents to law enforcement regarding the job/personal related effects, as well as the legal and civil ramifications.”

Steroids are a Schedule III controlled substance under Title 21 of the United States Code- aka the "Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990,"- using steroids is no different than using coke or heroin in the eyes of the law and any cop who is on should be summarily fired.

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whyigotahaveid Oct. 2, 2009 @ 10:53 a.m.

i can understand the police or law enforcements frustration. they like people to comply with their DEMANDS to the letter . and its tiring fighting the war againts never ending crime. but why do they ALL have that DEEK head haircut ? why not like eric estrada ?

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SDaniels Oct. 2, 2009 @ 10:57 a.m.

"but why do they ALL have that DEEK head haircut ? why not like eric estrada ?"

Hee hee. Why not, indeed, --why--! :)

Hot "Latin" temper stereotype. Check.

Acne. Nope.

Dope? Maybe coke; after all, early 80s.

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SDaniels Oct. 2, 2009 @ 11:03 a.m.

Oh lord, I don't even know who this Tony Stewart is, but I LOVE it! Estrada is the king of small time commercial pushers! Ever see him earnestly hawking empty parcels of land out in the swamps of FLA?

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 2, 2009 @ 2:47 p.m.

but why do they ALL have that DEEK head haircut ? why not like eric estrada ?

By whyigotahaveid

Because PD's hire alomst exclusively ex military. The only way to get in and NOT come from the miltiary is the "family and friends" route-or the URM route from consent decrees (yes, every major PD and FD in this state has been sued for civil rights violations in the work place-and settled).

Police dept.'s are also known as the "Full Employment Act For Ex Military" because they will hire a GED doofus from the military over a college grad 10 times out of 10.

This is true not just in CA, but across the nation. It is part of the LE culture, and one reaosn why the police are not a part of the community, but are antagonistic to the community because they still have an "it's us vs them war" in their GED minds.

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Burwell Oct. 9, 2009 @ 11:05 p.m.

Oh lord, I don't even know who this Tony Stewart is, but I LOVE it! Estrada is the king of small time commercial pushers! Ever see him earnestly hawking empty parcels of land out in the swamps of FLA?

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He's a major star in the Latin world and he earns a fortune starring in many Latin televison shows.

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PistolPete Oct. 9, 2009 @ 11:08 p.m.

I think she meant Tony Stewart. He's a NASCAR driver and a real crybaby.

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Burwell Oct. 9, 2009 @ 11:13 p.m.

At least 650 sworn officers on the SDPD payroll have memberships in MENSA.

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SDaniels Oct. 9, 2009 @ 11:27 p.m.

re: #11:

"He's a major star in the Latin world and he earns a fortune starring in many Latin televison shows."

Burwell follows Estrada's career! Now we know what he does when he isn't recommending death camps for people who visit establishments where alcohol is served). :)

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antigeekess Oct. 9, 2009 @ 11:39 p.m.

Somebody called Burwell pulled this one out:

"At least 650 sworn officers on the SDPD payroll have memberships in MENSA."

Wow. Where'd ya get THAT data?

For that matter, how many officers are there in the SDPD? Sounds like that would be an ungodly high percentage.

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SDaniels Oct. 10, 2009 @ 12:16 a.m.

How much is a membership to MENSA? (Men Engaged in Steroidal Autism)

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SDaniels Oct. 10, 2009 @ 12:27 a.m.

Thanks, Pete. I am nearly out of them this week ;)

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David Dodd Oct. 10, 2009 @ 1:05 a.m.

An aside: Curiously, if you call someone a mensa (feminine, "menso" is masculine) in Spanish, you are calling them stupid. Weird Spanish slang is weird?

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Josh Board Oct. 10, 2009 @ 1:07 a.m.

My friend worked at a nice hotel in Old Town, and we were meeting for dinner a few years back. She told me Estrada had just checked in. She said he used a different name, and admitted he did that so he wouldn't be recognized and bothered. We laughed about that, but I laughed harder when she told me he rolled up in a yellow Rolls Royce. Yeah...nothing like being discrete in a yellow Rolls.

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SDaniels Oct. 10, 2009 @ 1:58 a.m.

re: #21: refried, does it have anything to do with "menses?" "Mensual" as in monthly?

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David Dodd Oct. 10, 2009 @ 2:01 a.m.

Not sure, SD. It's slang, so it's not so traceable, but I'll ask over the weekend. But it's very common slang.

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Fred Williams Oct. 10, 2009 @ 7:27 a.m.

In Czech, we call people "dement". It means stupid, so it's probably related to the same latin root that gives Spanish "mensa" and English "demented".

No matter what you call it, turning a blind eye for decades to rampant steroid abuse by SDPD officers is just stupid. Have a look at some of the information available on the topic:

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/hoberman/cops-on-steroids.htm

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/big_guns_police_use_steroids.htm

http://oceanbeachpoliceabuse.blogspot.com/2005/09/steroid-abuse-by-law-enforcement.html

Best,

Fred Williams (former member of the San Diego Crime Commission)

(P.s. I'm unable to attend this meeting in person. I'm currently working in Prague. I participate as much as I can from a distance because my heart is always in San Diego.)

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 10, 2009 @ 8:17 a.m.

At least 650 sworn officers on the SDPD payroll have memberships in MENSA.

By Burwell

LOL...considering 80%+ of the SDPD (and ALL major PD's in the state) is hired with just a GED or HS diploma, you might want to recalculate that number downward Burell, by about 645, maybe 649.

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Burwell Oct. 10, 2009 @ 11:05 p.m.

With an IQ of 160 Jerry Sanders is fairly typical of SDPD officers. He outweighs all of you on the bathroom scale and the Stanford-Binet scale as well.

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David Dodd Oct. 10, 2009 @ 11:17 p.m.

IQ is to intellegence, apparently, as Nobel Peace Prize is to accomplishment...

A list of Sanders' accomplishments in office:

Um...

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antigeekess Oct. 10, 2009 @ 11:41 p.m.

Fred sed:

"Burwell, who says Sanders has a 160 IQ?"

Is that a rhetorical question, Fred? He still hasn't even cited his source for this silly BS, back in #13:

"At least 650 sworn officers on the SDPD payroll have memberships in MENSA."

Still waiting for that, Burwell.

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 11, 2009 @ 9:03 a.m.

A list of Sanders' accomplishments in office:

Um...

By refriedgringo

LOL.....so true....and why or how he was ever got re elected is a mystery to me.

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Burwell Oct. 11, 2009 @ 2:03 p.m.

LOL.....so true....and why or how he was ever got re elected is a mystery to me.

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Sanders has a lot of characteristics that appeal to many subsets of the San Diego voter demographic. His daughter is gay so he has the gay vote. His current wife is Jewish which helps him raise political funds and outspend his opponents. When the CHP tried to arrest him for drunk driving, he fled arrest in his Porsche at speeds in excess of 110 mph. As a result of this incident, criminals and sports car enthusiasts tend to vote for him in large numbers. He will likely be elected governor when his mayoral term ends.

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David Dodd Oct. 11, 2009 @ 2:11 p.m.

"His current wife is Jewish which helps him raise political funds and outspend his opponents."

O_o

Burwell, care to re-examine this sentence and tell me what's wrong with it?

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 11, 2009 @ 4:38 p.m.

When the CHP tried to arrest him for drunk driving, he fled arrest in his Porsche at speeds in excess of 110 mph.

Have not heard this one...please tell!

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Burwell Oct. 11, 2009 @ 8:58 p.m.

Have not heard this one...please tell! By SurfPuppy619 ===========

Sanders arrest was reported in the newspapers at the time and recounted in the U-T when he first ran for mayor. If any of us had attempted a stuntlike his we would have likely been charged with a felony.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050705/news_1m5sanders.html

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Visduh Oct. 11, 2009 @ 9:27 p.m.

Go to that link. It is one of the most blatant pieces of political puffery in the history of the U-T. It's worse than BS up to your knees. It is BS up to your neck! Lordy, how do they get away with such crap?

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SDaniels Oct. 12, 2009 @ 12:02 a.m.

"[Sanders] drew a 10-day suspension in 1976 for driving while intoxicated and leading the California Highway Patrol on a chase in his Porsche 914. He said he was not charged."

Wow, the "good" old days...Maybe he intimidated CHP officers with his "steely gaze."

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Duhbya Oct. 12, 2009 @ 5:27 a.m.

Or got a pass on his reputation as being such a "decent" guy. The best line, for me, in the U-T's smoochfest, was ".....Sometimes he's just too damn honest", as if the reporter was up on the subject.

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SDaniels Oct. 12, 2009 @ 5:52 a.m.

Yes, Duhbya, there are definitely a few gems to be had. Another:

"I've made decisions that I guarantee you none of these other people have ever had to even dream of making," he said..."

Then there is the line about his work at the PD being seen as a little too political, and that he just kept "renaming" the work. Anyone know what he called it?

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 12, 2009 @ 11:05 a.m.

Who would want this job?

"It's a cliche . . . but nothing today as mayor could be that tough" compared to police work, Sanders said. He acknowledges the challenges, but "at least they're not going to be shooting at me."

LOL..the standard cop line that they "dodge bullets" everyday!

Way to go KFC Sanders.

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SurfPuppy619 Oct. 12, 2009 @ 11:07 a.m.

He drew a 10-day suspension in 1976 for driving while intoxicated and leading the California Highway Patrol on a chase in his Porsche 914. He said he was not charged.

================= I guarantee you that if this happened today he could be the Gov and he would NOT get away with it- he would be charged for sure.

Sanders was lucky it happened in 1976, when he was 26 years old, and not today.

Obviously had strings pulled because he was a cop.

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Burwell Oct. 12, 2009 @ 9:12 p.m.

The U-T article also did not address the controversy surrounding Sanders' involvement in the McDonald's SWAT episode. It was rumored that Sanders was drinking beer at a police gathering in Mission Bay when his beeper went off alerting him of the SWAT action. As the story goes, he was dressed in shorts, sandals, and a T-Shirt. Rather than driving directly from Mission Bay to San Ysidro, it was alleged that he went home first and changed his clothes before driving to San Ysidro. This delayed his arrival by almost an hour and 8 minutes before his arrival the gunman starting shooting hostages. I don't know if this story is true or not, but as far as I know no reporter has looked into it.

http://laprensa-sandiego.org/archieve/august19-05/sanders.htm

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